Getting The Most Out Of S4 Headphones

This is a really exciting time at Klipsch! 

Now that we have launched Image S4 headphones, they have taken the public by storm.  So much so that we can't keep up with orders.  This is a nice problem to have these days, and hopefully we will be able to keep up with the demand.  

Everyone is special and sometimes earphones don't fit you well.  To avoid this issue, let's look at a case with some of our co-workers at Klipsch.

It seems like Klipsch has evolved with these new headphones, and this means workers have also evolved.  Some of them are stars!  Well, at least their ears are going public as we post there pinna's on websites all over the world.

Here is a picture of my friend and co-worker Andy.  While wearing the S4, Andy didn't think the product was comfortable for him.  We knew this would be an issue for some because the dual magnet driver in S4 is larger than anything else we have ever done.  Notice the red arrow showing the compression from the tragus of his ear and the S4 chassis:

You can see that the S4 fits him quite tight.  The tragus (flap of skin to the right of the headphone) is in the way of the headphone chasis, thus this is an uncomfortable fit with the proper ear tip.

In this picture of Sara you can see that the S4 fits quite nicely.  The tragus (flap of skin to the right of the headphone) is not in the way of the headphone chasis, meaning she has a good fit with the proper ear tip.

 

A user writes... 

"I also am having this problem.  I was wondering if I simply had disproportionately large ears!  Apparently I do!  :)

How should I go about accurately measuring my ear canal diameter?

 ... I am happy with my recent Image S4 purchase (though I wish I didn't have to wait so long to finally receive it via Amazon).

Thanks!"

The photo above with Andy is an example of how you measure your ear canal.  You can use a ruler also to get the width of the ear canal.  Your ear tip should be slightly wider than this dimension in the horizontal axis.  

Here is a picture of my ear with the wire down mode. 

For my ear, the tragus slot is a more undercut shape which allows the headphone to nest comfortably.  You can see this same calculation modeled below in 3D CAD with the cable going over the ear. This data was taken by creating an impression of my ear canal geometry, scanning it with a laser, and importing that laser data to a Computer Aided Design program (CAD).  This allowed me to move the headphone around in the 3D model to understand what angles are needed for the geometry of the design.

Klipsch has taken over 100 ear impressions to review the range of sizes and shapes of ear canals to understand what our customers need in their headphone design.  If it isn't comfortable, it doesn't matter how it sounds - you are not going to wear it if it hurts.

The next view shows an ear pinna 3D model in reference to the side view of the CAD model.  As you can see, the 3D CAD picture below is a much smaller ear (concha) than my own.  That is actually my daughter's ear.  Smile

 

Reviewing a solution for Andy, I had him try the design with the wire wrapped over the ear and the headphone rotated up 180 degrees.  Now the angle of the nozzle has shifted allowing him to nest the entire body inside his ear concha.

This cured Andy's fit issue by wearing the ear phone in the wire up and over the ear.  You can see that the changing the way he wore the S4 eliminates the problems with the tragus being in the way.  

If you are having issues with the body of S4 interfering with your ear try rotating the body 180 degrees by wearing the wire over the ear as in this picture. 

I hope this helps you to enjoy the full wonders of Image S4!

Published Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:32 AM by Professor Thump

Comments

Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:56 PM by blsamuel

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Nice write up and pictures Professor Thump!  

Be sure to link to this over in Headphones if you've not already done so.... I think the 1st 3 pics made it there first.

The Image S4 sound awesome considering their very modest price...

hmmm  dual magnet, I thought it was dual driver?  Confused again.  

The Image S2 coming out in August should also do extremely well as they're even less expensive.  

I'd think the S4 and S2 should go a long way towards introducing the masses to the Legenday Sound of Klipsch.

Owners of these might then think doesn't Klipsch make speakers too when they otherwise might not of known about or thought they could afford Klipsch.    

Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:50 PM by INDIAN

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I tried all the eargels and according to your instruction I followed and did the 180 degree experiment, still cant get the right fit ,

due to my big ear canal even large gives 90% of fit and isolation.

Do you have large double flange eargel ???????

I THINK IT CAN HELP ME

I NEED YOUR HELP < PLEASE >

raghu135raghavendra@gmail.com

Monday, July 13, 2009 4:06 PM by Professor Thump

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We have two sizes of double flange ear gels...sm/med and med/large.  These can be purchased from our website in the headphone products page.

www.klipsch.com/.../exclusive-oval-ear-tips-overview

Thursday, July 16, 2009 11:51 PM by Jim Forney

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A good example of how to properly fit and adjust the fit the C3's like this would be great

Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:31 AM by Sinusoidal Sinister

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hi..

I am planning to gift the S4 to my girlfriend and she has like baby size ears. The smallest size silicon tips from other manufacturers were like oversized for her canal and I guess its a pain for her to push them in her canal.

what would you advice regarding the S4.

Thanx

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:45 PM by Art Wright

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Have you added additional shifts yet?  I've been enjoying my Sony X-1051, but I have been waiting a month for my S4's through B&H!!!

Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:08 PM by Photojoe

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I got my S4's this week. They are a cut above the Sennheiser CX300's I've had for a while. That is once they're in place properly. I have ears that only allow me to wear them upside down using the small flanged tips to achieve the proper seal. This makes them too uncomfortable for me. I've ordered the small eartips to see if they will aid in the comfort and fit. Dropping another $12.95 to see if they will fit comfortably isn't something I should have had to do. I'm keeping my fingers crossed they'll help or the S4's will have to go back.

Sunday, August 30, 2009 7:57 PM by Roger

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I just got the S4s at the Tucson Apple Store. They were so new that there was no price sticker on them yet.  I am on a Delta flight with WiFi trying to get the right fit. The sound is tinny unless I hold them a certain way. I will keep expermenting. Without your pictures and explaination I would have already given up. Thanks!

Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:16 PM by Ajay

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Instead of rotating it 180 degree over the year. i tried just swapping the 'L' and 'R'. I used 'L' for my right ear and 'R' for my left ear. it fitted fine too.

Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:54 PM by Photojoe

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Oddly, it is more comfortable for me reversing L+R, but that drives me crazy having the channels reversed.

Friday, September 04, 2009 1:38 AM by Roger Harmon

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I found the correct ear gels for my ears, and the sound has improved greatly. I have the IMAGE S4i and I really like the 3 button control. The mic seems to work well as I used it in several airports with lots of back ground noise.  The only problem is the control stopped working. The mic and the ear phones still work, but no control functions.  I am taking them back to the Apple Store under their 20 day exchange policy and trying again.  I think the cable needs to be reinforced on both sides of the control.

Friday, September 04, 2009 6:17 PM by Photojoe

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Got the small eartips today. They did the trick! S4's are now as comfortable as all the claims say. Great fit and comfort. I can do some serious listening now.

Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:58 PM by JeVone

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The earphones are extremely comfortable, but i'm still not getting any bass out of them. I find this quite odd. I think my set may be defective. I must say these are the best fitting earphones I have ever owned.

Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:31 PM by JeVone

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The sound is precise due to the extra clear highs and the mid-range is nice too. My problems once again is the bass. The bass is very difficult to get without pressing the earbuds hard. I've tried them on in every possible position referring to the pictures and write ups above. This is my second pair. I listen to reggae, hip-hop, jazz and R&B. At this point, i'd sacrafice the extremely comfortable fit for more bass. I would like to try the X10 just to know how they compare to the S4's. I see the price difference, but is the sound as different as the price. Hmmm...

Tuesday, April 13, 2010 11:38 PM by JMK

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Just switch the wear in opposite ear (i.e., left in right / right in left) accomplishes the same thing and you can wear normal w/out wire over ear.

Thursday, April 15, 2010 6:08 PM by Aj

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Just got my pair today. Pulling your ear up while sliding in the phone works perfectly; no harsh head on pushing required. Make sure when you change tips that they are vertical. The medium tips fit but the smaller tips fit even better. Great product.

Tuesday, April 20, 2010 5:14 PM by redrider

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I don't know if this will be necessary for the S4's as I'm waiting for mine to arrive but I solved previous insertion and sealing problems with other types of in-ear-canal buds with a tip that was given to me.  As gross as it sounds if you wet your finger and apply a little saliva around the rubber tip they seem go in and seal way better.

Wednesday, April 21, 2010 9:28 PM by Dan

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Hi. I just got a pair today and went jogging after putting the L ones in. They kept slipping out, losing the seal and letting air in... not enjoyable. I am going to try to rotate it and see if it causes a dfference (180 and 90 degrees) but I feel like the gel slips out when a little sweat gets going... is there anything I can do? I think the large double flange might work better but the website seems to be out of them.

Saturday, April 24, 2010 8:34 PM by Simon Cobb

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The S4is were my first experience with IEMs.  Initially I was totally disappointed.  Regardless of which tips I tried, I could not get a good seal and the headphones sounded rubbish.  I was at the point of giving up on them when I googled around and came across this blog.  Following the advice here has solved my problems.  I can either:

a) wear them upside down

b) put the left IEM in my right ear and vice versa, which allows me to wear them conventionally.

I guess that sonically, option a) is better, even if they do look slightly strange!

Moistening with saliva before insertion (sorry if that sounded gross!) also helped.  Either option gives me a perfect seal and great sound, plus a reasonable level of comfort when used with the smallest tips.

My recommendation?  Don't give up too quickly on the S4s; once properly inserted (and I'd guess that with persistence a good fit can be achieved for virtually everyone) they sound great.  However, even with a perfect seal, they still take a bit of getting used to in terms of feel if you are unfamiliar (as I was) with having something inserted inside your ear canal.

Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:42 AM by Bbmaster91

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I was wondering if anyone experienced this issue with these ear buds. My left earbud on my s4's crackles and sounds like something is loose in them. I've only had them a week, and these are actually a replacement I got from best buy. The weird thing is I had the same issue with the first pair I had. Is this some sort of design flaw or did I just get unlucky and get 2 bad pairs. Also, when I wear the s4's and tap them, the left one makes a tinny noise and sounds like something is loose, but there is no noise from the right earbud.

Saturday, July 17, 2010 4:18 AM by Jeffrey

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Hi! I tend to have very difficult ears to fit and after playing around with the s4's for the last week have finally found a great way (For me) to insert them properly:

First, skew the ear gels (M for me) on a rough 45 appropriate for your ear canal

Second, on insertion, I twist the phones forward (bottom with cable rotating toward my jaw)

This seems to lock them right in. I now know about the bass extension AND imaging! Yippee

Keep at them if they don't work off the bat, I have yet to find a Klipsch product at any level I did not end up loving!

Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:10 PM by Gurbet Sohbet

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The sound is precise due to the extra clear highs and the mid-range is nice too. My problems once again is the bass, More Bass

Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:56 PM by fuzzy

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I bought these at Best Buy in search of something to isolate background noise while working. I read the CNET review and thought that I should use the large size tips to get the best fit as they indicated that the tips run small. As others have also indicated that without a good seal there is little bass. I passed through Atlanta yesterday and a Electronics shop in Terminal D caught my eye with several high end in ear headphones. The manager, I forget her name, was extremely helpful. Not only did she have all the high end headphones to demo she also noticed that I had the wrong size tips on my S4. She helped me fit them properly with the medium tips and the difference is dramatic. I was skeptical about rotating them with the wire over the ear as the logo would be upside down which is how I found this... I just wanted to verify her info. I am sorry I doubted but also happy to confirm how important a proper seal of the ear canal is to bring out the best sound possible... I must say out of the few pairs I compared in the store my favorite were the Shure SE535 of course for $500... They felt solid and overbuilt and of course sounded stellar. Though once I got my S4 fitted properly I am not sure the price difference is linear in terms of the quality and thus value. Once I figured out how to fit the S4 properly inserting properly now is much easier as I know what sound I am searching for. All techniques mentioned work. I can wear them all ways but certainly a little lubrication and rotating slightly to get a good seal is the key. I still am interested in comparing with higher end headphones but overall was impressed with the value the S4 presents and how easy the tips are to insert versus the foam/gel counterparts found on the competition. My one complaint would be that there should be some documentation stating that if you "push on the headphones while they are in the ear and hear a dramatic difference in audio quality and upon letting the pressure off from pushing them in the sound degrades they are not properly sealing inside the canal. This might indicate the tip size needs to be changed smaller as the tips could slide further down the canal and make a proper seal..."

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