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Is Punk 30 years old?...and Clash reminiscing

Last post 02-03-2008 8:35 PM by billybob. 37 replies.
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  • 02-02-2008 8:17 PM In reply to

    • Marvel
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    Re: Is Punk 30 years old?...and Clash reminiscing

    I have a few Steve Miller albums on vinyl.... and always liked him. 

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  • 02-02-2008 8:41 PM In reply to

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    Re: Is Punk 30 years old?...and Clash reminiscing

     When I was in college I got to see The Ramones perform in Roslyn, NY.  As a young Ensign stationed at Little Creek I got to see the following band: 

    • Iron Cross (multiple times)
    • Iggy and the Stooges
    • Cro Mags
    • The Dictators
    • Patti Smith
    • New York Dolls
    • The Dead Boys 
    • Lou Reed 
    • Unatural Axe
    • The Angry Samoans 

    I saw Costello, but don't see him as a punk act, or the Talking Heads, more like new wave guys.  I can't believe Joey and Tommy Ramone are dead, it is depressing.  The Stooges, now that was a hard core band, what broke them up was Ron Ashton getting drafted by the Navy (we get all the talent).  I had a friend who lived in Manhattan so we used to take advantage of weekend liberty and jet up there in my 1972 Olds 442 w/the W-30 package.

    Today, I never play those guys at full blast, my taste in music has changed, as has my taste for really high volume.  I spent 22 years in Swift Boats and SWCC, so I am happy to still have my hearing.  I really loved the spirit of the Clash 'White Album' much as I like the 4-Skins, AC-DC, The Dropkick Murphy's and anyone who exudes energy, some stuff by the White stripes.

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  • 02-02-2008 8:55 PM In reply to

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    I still listen to the Pretenders. Hard to believe it's been that many years since they were getting real airtime.

     

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  • 02-02-2008 9:32 PM In reply to

    • whamo
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    Re: Is Punk 30 years old?...and Clash reminiscing

     How about "White Riot"? I never knew what that song was about until I watched a Joe Strummer thing on Pay per View. That song rips, no, that whole album is good.  How about XTC?  Anyone here like them? 

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  • 02-02-2008 9:58 PM In reply to

    Re: Is Punk 30 years old?...and Clash reminiscing

    Oh man. My girlfriend and I were just listening to both of these in the car.
    billybob:

    Marvel:

    Embarrassed  That's ok... it was still better than most of the other local stations.

    Wall Of Voodoo: Mexican Radio &.....WOV fav....Ring Of Fire !!!
  • 02-02-2008 10:03 PM In reply to

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    Wall Of Voodoo: Mexican Radio &.....WOV fav....Ring Of Fire !!! Oh man. My girlfriend and I were just listening to both of these songs in the car earlier.
  • 02-02-2008 11:33 PM In reply to

    • billybob
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    Re: Is Punk 30 years old?...and Clash reminiscing

    Macho Kiljoy:
    Wall Of Voodoo: Mexican Radio &.....WOV fav....Ring Of Fire !!! Oh man. My girlfriend and I were just listening to both of these songs in the car earlier.

    You do know Ring is an old J.Cash hit.....right....cool!

    Two different tempos, some fine music! Recommended for Klipsch speaker systems!

     

     

     



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  • 02-03-2008 4:08 AM In reply to

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    XTC .............. Isn't that EARLY Billy Idol ??? Billy Idol /Steve Stevens what a singer/guitarist team they are !!!!!!!!

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  • 02-03-2008 9:02 AM In reply to

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    oldbuckster that's Generation X. XTC was/is? Andy Partridge's band that sound nothing like "traditional" punk. XTC had a pretty big radio/alternative hit in the 80's titled Dear God that's been in movies and everything. Andy is very well respected as a top notch lyricist and would be more for Beatles/power-pop fans. They did a side band called The Dukes Of Stratosphear that is a throwback to the psych/garage sound of the mid to late 60's that is fantastic and is highly recommended. I'm telling you guys that the Rhino box set titled No Thanks! The '70's Punk Rebellion is an absolute must if you're interested in a crash course in this music. It is very varied and not just filled with Sex Pistols clones.
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  • 02-03-2008 9:06 AM In reply to

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    Disc One "Blitzkrieg Bop" - Ramones "White Riot" - The Clash "Heart Of The City" - Nick Lowe "Boredom" - Buzzcocks featuring Howard Devoto "(I'm) Stranded" - The Saints "Neat Neat Neat" - The Damned "In The City" - The Jam "Final Solution" - Pere Ubu "Roadrunner" - The Modern Lovers "Little Johnny Jewel" - Television "One Chord Wonders" - The Adverts "Born To Lose" - The Heartbreakers "Search and Destroy" - Iggy & The Stooges "Let Me Dream If I Want To (Amphetamine Blues)" - Mink DeVille "Oh Bondage Up Yours!" - X-Ray Spex "1 2 X U" - Wire "Blank Generation" - Richard Hell & The Voidoids "(Get A) Grip (On Yourself)" - The Stranglers "Cherry Bomb" - The Runaways "Personality Crisis" - New York Dolls "Teenage Depression" - Eddie & The Hot Rods "Two Tub Man" - The Dictators "Hey Joe (Version)" - Patti Smith "Your Generation" - Generation X Disc Two "Lust For Life" - Iggy Pop "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" - The Adverts "Saturday Night In The City Of The Dead" - Ultravox "What Do I Get?" - Buzzcocks "X Offender" - Blondie "Lookin' After No. 1" - The Boomtown Rats "Don't Dictate" - Penetration "Bingo Master" - The Fall "Free Money" - Patti Smith "The Modern World" - The Jam "Chinese Rocks" - The Heartbreakers "New Rose" - The Damned "Ambition" - Subway Sect "See No Evil" - Television "Suspect Device" - Stiff Little Fingers "Mannequin" - Wire "Baby Baby" - The Vibrators "Love Comes In Spurts" - Richard Hell & The Voidoids "First Time" - The Boys "Sonic Reducer" - Dead Boys "Shot By Both Sides" - Magazine "Mystery Dance" - Elvis Costello "Trash" - New York Dolls "The Day The World Turned Day-Glo" - X-Ray Spex "Do Anything You Wanna Do" - Eddie & The Hot Rods Disc Three "Ready Steady Go" - Generation X "Teenage Kicks" - The Undertones "Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll" - Ian Dury "Ever Fallen In Love (With Someone You Shouldn't've?)" - Buzzcocks "Rocket U.S.A." - Suicide "Mongoloid" - Devo "Homicide" - 999 "Mr. Big" - The Dils "Warsaw" - Joy Division "Where Were You?" - The Mekons "Lexicon Devil" - The Germs "(My Baby Does) Good Sculptures" - The Rezillos "The Wait - The Pretenders "We Got The Neutron Bomb" - The Weirdos "Pablo Picasso" - The Modern Lovers "Action Time Vision" - Alternative TV "2-4-6-8 Motorway" - Tom Robinson Band "We Are The One" - The Avengers "Borstal Breakout" - Sham 69 "Wasted" - Black Flag "Sheena Is a Punk Rocker" - Ramones "I Love Livin In The City" - Fear "She's So Modern" - The Boomtown Rats "Ghosts Of Princes In Towers" - Rich Kids "We're Desperate" - X "You Drive Me Ape (You Big Gorilla)" - The Dickies "Dancing The Night Away" - The Motors Disc Four "Hong Kong Garden" - Siouxsie & The Banshees "Hanging on the Telephone" - Blondie "Top Of The Pops" - The Rezillos "Adult Books" - X "The Sound Of The Suburbs" - The Members "California Über Alles" - Dead Kennedys "Another Girl, Another Planet" - The Only Ones "(I Want To Be An) Anglepoise Lamp" - The Soft Boys "Radio, Radio" - Elvis Costello & The Attractions "Typical Girls" - The Slits "Human Fly" - The Cramps "Psycho Killer" - Talking Heads "Babylon's Burning" - The Ruts "If The Kids Are United" - Sham 69 "Alternative Ulster" - Stiff Little Fingers "Boy's Don't Cry" - The Cure "She Is Beyond Good And Evil" - The Pop Group "Is She Really Going Out With Him?" - Joe Jackson "Get Over You" - The Undertones "Love Like Anthrax" - Gang Of Four "Peaches" - The Stranglers "Into the Valley" - The Skids "You Can't Put Your Arms Round A Memory" - Johnny Thunders "Love Will Tear Us Apart" - Joy Division
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  • 02-03-2008 9:07 AM In reply to

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    Well that's not very easy to read. What happened to the breaks?
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  • 02-03-2008 9:11 AM In reply to

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    I knew there was an X somewhere ................ Rhino Records has it all covered ... Ever visit their website ... www.rhino.com ... great stuff on there, the PHOTO GALLERY is second to none....

    IAN DURY and the Blockheads ;SEX and DRUGS and ROCK N' ROLL ......... IGGY POP and the STOOGIES ... Classic stuff !!!!!!!!

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  • 02-03-2008 10:43 AM In reply to

    • JBryan
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    Re: Is Punk 30 years old?...and Clash reminiscing

    Synthfreek said: "... not just filled with Sex Pistols clones."

    I'm of the opinion that ALL punk bands were Sex Pistols clones. In fact, aside from the Sex Pistols, very few bands listed in this thread would really qualify as 'PUNK' in my book. Elvis Costello, Talking Heads, Oingo Boingo/Danny Elfman and Pretenders were never Punk - they showered too much and Bowie and New York Dolls were doing 'GLAM' in the '70's. The Clash was a punk band but some would consider them too political... punks were more nihilistic and just wanted to piss people off. Bad Religion, Dead Kennedy's, Black Flag, Buzzcocks, Misfits and maybe even Social Distortion might qualify in my book.

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  • 02-03-2008 10:50 AM In reply to

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    Re: Is Punk 30 years old?...and Clash reminiscing

    LOL! Yes, that's the problem with labels. Some bands/sounds cannot, some might say should not be defined!



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  • 02-03-2008 11:53 AM In reply to

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    I agree that the term "punk" is often used as a very broad and general term. I also agree that the Sex Pistols and The Ramones should be credited with laying down the foundation of the punk "sound". But to me Television is a punk band even though they sound nothing like the Pistols or most British punk. Unless you're talking to someone who's really in the know and you describe Television as "you know...one of those New York/CBGB's art-punk bands" they'll have no idea what you mean. It's just easier to call them a punk band with guitar solos :-) I think that Costello, Joe Jackson and the Talking Heads etc. get the punk tag more for their artistic ethics and philosophies than their sound and I can deal with that. If I were going to make a definitive punk comp for someone though I wouldn't include them.
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