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  • 03-23-2008 5:48 PM In reply to

    • Cask05
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    Re: Another Hundred Days of Jubilee Ownership

    Mike Lindsey:

    Is your BS&T the Direct Disk Labs pressing? Yes If not, there is a big difference.

    And the Blow By Blow needs to be the original Orange Epic label. I assume that the "orange label" is the one on the record itself.  If this is so, then I have an orange-label Blow by Blow (newly acquired in 1977). 

    Mike

     

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  • 03-23-2008 7:05 PM In reply to

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    Mike Lindsey:
    The Doors (any that have the original red Electra label)

     

    Mike,

    I very much agree. original Doors pressings are fantastic, but original Doors Elektra pressings will have a tan or gold lable.

     

    Travis

    "In listening to sound, I guess what I'm after is the closest thing that I can get to reality. Now, I know it's not going to be reality, cause the thing gotta go through wires and gotta go through filters and this and that. But what I really like is to get as close to the natural sound of the instruments as possible. That's why I like analog as opposed to digital. Because I don't give a *** what anybody tells you man, I know what you guys are going to tell me...'Oh yeah, but it's clean Ray!' Well it's clean but it don't got no balls!!!" -Ray Charles
  • 03-23-2008 8:44 PM In reply to

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    Re: Another Hundred Days of Jubilee Ownership

    Cask05:
    Since you brought it up, what lower frequency did you have in mind (in Hz)?  Could you give me an example recording, by title?

    I think flat to 26Hz (so an F3 below 26Hz) would be a good place to start. All of my sound stuff is in the lab at school so you'll have to give me some time to provide some titles with measurements showing the bandwidth. I also want to make sure I choose titles that most here would be more likely to enjoy. I'm aware of the fact that I definitely prefer "different" music so I'm not about to start listing all of my favorites only to have them torn apart (been there done that before).

    Btw, there was a really interesting thread started by formica where he ran all sorts of waterfall plots of his favorite music when he was designing his IB subwoofer to supplement his khorns...I was surprised by a lot of it to be honest. I'll see if I can't dig up that thread. 

    -Mike Bentz
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  • 03-23-2008 9:02 PM In reply to

    • Cask05
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    Re: Another Hundred Days of Jubilee Ownership

    Mike B.,

    I sent you a PM.

    Chris 

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  • 03-24-2008 3:12 PM In reply to

    Re: Another Hundred Days of Jubilee Ownership ?

    Cask05:

    seti:

    How about a pic of your Jubilee's. 

    I believe that I've posted this before, but...the things on top of each speaker are bass traps.

    Chris 

    Chris, congrats on your Jubilee's.  In looking at your pictures I have a comment.  I assume that those are "RealTraps" on top of your Jubilees similar to the ones that I have in my man cave.  I used to also place my RealTraps on top of my modded Khorns, like you do with your Jubs until I represented an acoustician who designs and remodels large concert halls, etc.  We started shooting the breeze about audio and I drew him a picture of my room and placement of various realtraps (and other fiberglass panels).  He agreed with placing the traps in the corners opposite the Khorns and several places where the walls meet the ceilings.  However, he suggested that I was losing bass by placing them on top of the khorns.  I followed his advise and my bass response seemed to improve.  

    I do not know if his recommendation would also apply to the Jubs in those corners, but I thought that I would bring it up anyway.  If you have already tried if differently and it was worse another way, please feel free to disregard my comments. 

    Again, congrats.

     Carl.

    Mains: Khorn bass bins, Altec A7s (Altec 902s, Trachorns, JBL E140s), center: 91 Belle; side surrounds: KG 3.5s; rear surrounds: 77 Belles (Radian 850s, ALK ES, Forte drivers), SVS PB12, Peach, Classe SSP30,MkII, NosValves VRDs, Sonic Impact Super-T, Dynaco ST 70, QSC PLX 1202, Crown Powerline 4, Yamaha P2200, Yamaha PC2002M, Jolida JD100 modded, Denon 2900, NAD 4155, Thorens TD160 Super w/Grado Reference, 7.1 in all. Oh, and some Phase Linear Andromedas and other stuff.

    Family Rm: RB25s, RC7 (Dean mod), JBLs, Yamaha RXV1300, SVS 20-39PCi.

    Patio: JBL 4612s.
  • 03-24-2008 4:09 PM In reply to

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    Re: Another Hundred Days of Jubilee Ownership ?

    Carl,

    Thanks for the info! 

    I actually have a problem with where to put mine if I move them (...into the kitchen?...) but you can bet that I'm trying something out tonight. I'm sure that the wife isn't going to be getting in my way to move those things.

    Room modes are the main issue that I'm currently dealing with.  One of the things that I've heard from other audio types that have come by is the much-larger Jube sweet spot vis-à-vis Khorns--note that Jubes don't seem to have the Khorn issues with ceiling and floor bounce.

    Regards,

    Chris A. 

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  • 03-24-2008 8:46 PM In reply to

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    Re: Another Hundred Days of Jubilee Ownership ?

    Well <ahem>...guess where my bass traps aren't, now...
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  • 03-25-2008 6:22 AM In reply to

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    Re: Another Hundred Days of Jubilee Ownership ?

    A great deal of difference...almost all in the audible bass region, I'd say about 100-350 Hz, is more prevalent than with the traps sitting on top.  I’ve repositioned the traps to different parts of the room – no other corners were available.  This means that I’m going to have to live with some room modes.  The overall effect, though, is a more “live” feel to the room.  The K-402 CD horns really do their job nicely in keeping the problems from being worse.

     

    Chris

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  • 03-26-2008 8:00 PM In reply to

    • Bill W.
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    Re: Another Hundred Days of Jubilee Ownership

    Hey Chris,

    I just read this thread (been very busy). Your review is informative and well-written. This dialouge helps all those here who want to learn more about the Jubilees. All the demos I have provided here at the house are consistent with your experiences. People are just dumbstruck at hearing for the first time what they have never before heard from a loudspeaker system. Most people who have heard our system have asked if they can come back for another listening session with friends and additional music. We have really enjoyed having the Jubilees set up to compare with the Klipschorns all winter. I can hardly wait to begin the season in Colorado - We are already getting calls asking when live music will be scheduled for the patio (through the Jubilees of course!)

    I'm glad you're loving your Jubilees...  How could you not love something this awesome???

    Take care,

    Bill

  • 06-11-2008 9:04 PM In reply to

    Re: Another Hundred Days of Jubilee Ownership

    I am interested in using the Jubilee in a Home Theater project we are working on. The customer loves to play music as well as movies.Who sells them? I would need three. We can build cabinets if that makes sense,but it looks complex?
  • 06-11-2008 9:55 PM In reply to

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    Hi ddingle,

    Welcome to the Forum.

    I have a HT / 2 channel setup using Jubilees in the front along with Klipsch cinema speakers for sub and rear.  Send me an email and I'll be happy to share my setup and experience with you.

    Blessings,

    Bill

    Bill Hendrix

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  • 06-11-2008 10:31 PM In reply to

    • Marvel
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    Re: Another Hundred Days of Jubilee Ownership

    ddingle:
    Who sells them?
    You would need to contact Klipsch directly, to see about what you need. Roy has been most helpful to get these into the homes of those who want them. 

    Bruce 

    '86 LaScalas (LS-BLS w/s) w/BEC tweeters and DHA2 crossovers, '89 Heresy IIs, '72 JBL 4311s, JMA Merlin Pre, Welborne Labs 2A3 Moondogs, Former Dynaco ST-70, H/K 430 x 2
  • 06-12-2008 4:00 PM In reply to

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    Re: Another Hundred Days of Jubilee Ownership

    Say Bill,

    I'm trying to get up to Wichita & Greensburg this summer to visit my sis, friends & the old family farm. If you're around and our schedules mesh, could I impose on your hospitality and hear your Jube setup?

    The more music I make, the less I listen.
  • 10-29-2009 10:12 AM In reply to

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    Re: Another Hundred Days of Jubilee Ownership

    DrWho:
    Cask05:
    Since you brought it up, what lower frequency did you have in mind (in Hz)?  Could you give me an example recording, by title?

    I think flat to 26Hz (so an F3 below 26Hz) would be a good place to start...

    Mike,

    After setting up the tapped horn subs and tweaking them with the Jubs, I'm of the opinion that you are being a bit conservative with that 26 Hz estimate.  I'd put it at a lower freq now: the lower system Fc really adds a lot to the 2-channel and 5 channel experience. 

    Replacing the K69s with TADs doesn't hurt either: it sounds like "hi-fi" all over the room--side-to-side, front-to-back.  And the TADs do a lot more than just sound better on the high end...

    Chris

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