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Just finished testing a new (NIB) pair of Series VI.
First off - that ws quick - how much time did you spend on this? Not a criticism - a question..
A week, every day, about 2 hours a day, sometimes working (background), sometimes just listening, looking at the Forum, other "stuff" and all day Saturday (had visitors)
Plus vs Minus (lotta' minus stuff here folks...):
There is no off/on switch!!
Not sure that is a big minus - my pre-amp never gets swtiched off - in fact it is true of several of my components - is there a known issue with component failure? not heard one myself but that doesn't mean much. As an aside is the equalizer powered? I was of the impression that it was not but I might be wrong.
It is powered, has the plug, light but no switch. I asked the Bose tech and he told me that usually it's plugged into the back of the amp's "switched" outlet.
The average owner could easily mess up a stain, get stuff all over the grills, etc.
Well there are a choice of finishes - a friend of mine bought them in piano black - if you choose the unfinished veneer then on your head be it if you screw up the staining job. The grills definitely come off - would be a good idea to remove them prior to staining....
The piano black is not a US option, only the unfinished walnut and simulated black ash vinyl. The front grills are still permanently "stapled" and glued on these. The rears do come off, but very flimsy and difficult to put back on evenly. The down side of the unfinished walnut is that they do not advertise, or describe the walnut as unfinished, etc. To the average user, this would be an important piece of information. According to the tech, when asking about the finish, he explained that most purchasers in the US buy the black vinyl. The techs were also unable to answer the question when posed on the arrival of the first pair as to what had been done at the factory. About three days later, I received an email that confirmed the lack of any wax, oil, etc.
the second pair that they had to send me....
That is bad for sure - who knows what happened. I havent seen too many straight from the factory but the ones I have seen appeared in good condition on delivery - could this be a one off or a new production problem?
Possibly, I'm inclined to agree that there is likely a production problem. Apparently the 901's were assembled in a Canadian facility until very recently. These are assembled in Framingham per the tech. The biggest problem appears to be the "hot glue gun gone wild" syndrome. Tiny threads of the stuff all over everything. Really bad on the first pair, and there was some on the second pair, but confined to the side panels.
The big issue is that if someone spends $1500 on a pair of speakers, then they should be very, very careful before they consider Bose. The workmanship in assembly is horrible - very.....
Again - first I have heard of this - certainly a worry - but I guess there is a return policy for sub-standard items.
And that is a good thing; I approached this comment from the viewpoint of someone who has no experience with Bose 901's, just to make sure that if they do purchase a pair, to carefully examine them before hooking them up. My comment, of course, is certainly biased after two successive "failures" to send a pair of properly assembled (and inspected) speakers.
The IMHO part:
The new ones..... are still only useful in the application for which they were intended..... ... they did the job intended - gave me a better sound stage and helped fill in some sweet spot "holes".
Not sure about this - as with most speakers they are dependent upon both the driving equipment and the room. I am certain we could put them on one setup and they would appear to be better than Heresies on that setup in that room but the reverse would apply in another room on another setup.
You could very well be quite correct. I tried them with solid state, and with tubes. The room is "treated", etc. I put them at 18", 24" and finally at 40". The 40" height worked best. The primary single difference is the clarity. That is a function of the direct horn vs the reflecting technology.
You are right as to use with a Klipsch speaker in the same room. I "wandered" them out to the living room with a spare amp and CD player, and they were "ok", but until I pushed the treble slider up 3/4 of the way, they did not have the clarity. They were on the whole, better in a larger room than in the voodoo room.
Mixing them with Klipsch is certainly not the intended use. These are, as far as I am aware, designed to be used as main speakers (with the option of adding more as surrounds). Setting them up to fulfil this role takes time - it does with any speaker - but in this case - with the additional complexity of setting the equalizer in combination with the postioning issues and the driving equipment issues its not a plug and play option. This is a disadvantage for Johny Average who just wants to dump them into his system and play but meat and veg to inveterate audio players such as ourselves.
So true. It took time to set them up in the wall of voodoo, but other than the issue with the high mid range and top end "clarity", they did what I expected them to do. If (IF), I were to keep them, they would have to be stand alone in the living room.
Buying new? Buy a pair of H-III's. First of all they are far more useful, and sound better. Second, the 901 workmanship is really bad. Now, I may have just been "unlucky", or the victim of Murphy's Law, but either way, I know that Klipsch quality control on a pair of H-III's will be perfect.
Quite possibly true in your room with your driving equipment - quite possibly not in another room / setup - quality issues not withstanding.
True, however in the analysis of comparing them with the Heresies, I take into account (a) cost, (b) ease of placement, (c) ability of use (applies to the requirement for an external equalizer that must use a tape deck circuit on an amp), and (d) overall quality.
Buying used? For $1500 you can get a very nice pair of La Scala's, maybe some Belle's, or even a pair of K-horn's that need "cosmetics", or at least 3 pairs of minty Heresy's
for a "wall of voodoo"!!
I dont think it is ever fair to compare buying new and old as new would almost never win. It would apply equally to new Klipsch product verses old. I pair of Palladiums, for example, could yield 4 pairs of Khorns used. The palladiums may be better - but that is a lot to make up.
Now that's funny!!! LOL!! I did throw that into the comments because many folks will look at "used" Heritage for economic reasons.
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In the end, as so often noted on the Forum, it's going to be the user's "ears" and "wallet". Are they a viable option for a pair of speakers? Yes, they are certainly that. Are there distinct factors a potential buyer should know? Of course. If I had a large room, consistently lots of people all the time, and needed a pair of speakers that I could "plug and forget", not break the bank, then maybe a choice is there. I would also be looking at Klipsch Professional, JBL's, etc. For home use, it's should be a decision made after listening to various brands in the same price range, before that decision is made. Hopefully, before someone "plunks down" that amount of money, they will be able to test various speakers in their home. Alas, and unfortunately, most stores do not have a "prospective buyer loaner" program any more. Shame about that.
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