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Last post 05-14-2008 10:40 PM by Dflip. 61 replies.
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  • 05-09-2008 10:09 AM

    • artto
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    Don't Buy McIntosh

    God forbid anything should go wrong with your unit. McIntosh service SUCKS.

    The front glass panel for my MX130 is backordered. The unit has been in the shop since February 4. McIntosh has no ETA on the part and refuses to give an ETA.

    When I buy a Rolls Royce type product, I expect Rolls Royce type service. The service department was even very cagey and sly about the way they answered, or I should say, declined to answer any of my inquries. For having so many products in the $5000 - $25000 range this is a *** shame!

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    McIntosh MX130, Nakamichi Dragon cassette deck, Sony A7 Digital audio tape deck
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  • 05-09-2008 10:23 AM In reply to

    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

    That is a surprise for folks with the rep of Mac. Not anywhere near par,

    Good luck getting this resolved.

     

    "I know I'm paranoid.... but, am I paranoid enough?" --Tom Clancy
  • 05-09-2008 10:41 AM In reply to

    • TommyK
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    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

    I remember the MX130.  Stereophile recommended in 1995.  When did they stop making them?  

    I have had to wait for MAC glass as well. Longest was about 1 year.

    I dont know of any other MFG that still supports 10-15 yr old gear; or would re-order glass once their stock goes out.  We all know what happened to Rolls Royce - they went belly up.

    Good luck. TommyK

     

  • 05-09-2008 11:04 AM In reply to

    • seti
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    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

    I think Audio Karma's McIntosh forum has some guys from McIntosh that post there regularly. Might wanna post there. I hate it when bad service happens to good products. 

    "First off, I don't even consider myself a member of the general public. I know that my own requirements in a loudspeaker are those I've discussed. judging from what contact I have with the general public, though, I conclude that 99 percent of the general public doesn't even know what accuracy of reproduction is. My company is for the one percent composed of perfectionists who buy these expensive speakers." PWK

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  • 05-09-2008 11:22 AM In reply to

    • Z4!
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    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

    I have purchased Mac glass from http://www.audioclassics.com/ in the past.

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  • 05-09-2008 12:58 PM In reply to

    • kuisis
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    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

     

    When Did Rolls Royce go belly up, they still manufacture cars.?

     Tom

  • 05-09-2008 1:02 PM In reply to

    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

    kuisis:

     

    When Did Rolls Royce go belly up, they still manufacture cars.?

     Tom

    They are owned by BMW.

    Pyrokinetic since 1998
  • 05-09-2008 1:17 PM In reply to

    • TommyK
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    1971 Rolls Royce collapsed.

    in 1971 RR was bailed out by the British government.  At teh time it was insolvent. Later split, privatised, sold and resold.

    TommyK

  • 05-09-2008 1:24 PM In reply to

    • Kudret
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    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

     

    seti:

    I think Audio Karma's McIntosh forum has some guys from McIntosh that post there regularly. Might wanna post there. I hate it when bad service happens to good products. 

    I think his moniker is RonC. I met him at the Montreal Audio show last year and he was a very nice guy.

    Kudret 

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  • 05-09-2008 1:42 PM In reply to

    • seti
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    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

     

    Kudret:

     

    seti:

    I think Audio Karma's McIntosh forum has some guys from McIntosh that post there regularly. Might wanna post there. I hate it when bad service happens to good products. 

    I think his moniker is RonC. I met him at the Montreal Audio show last year and he was a very nice guy.

    Kudret 

     

    He is a wealth of information and helpful to boot. 

    "First off, I don't even consider myself a member of the general public. I know that my own requirements in a loudspeaker are those I've discussed. judging from what contact I have with the general public, though, I conclude that 99 percent of the general public doesn't even know what accuracy of reproduction is. My company is for the one percent composed of perfectionists who buy these expensive speakers." PWK

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  • 05-09-2008 3:21 PM In reply to

    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

    I too would recommend that you contact Audio Classics. They had glass in stock for my 6100. I believe that Mcintosh manufactures the glass once they get a few orders for it.  I don't think that getting a cagey response is good but I would have to say it is pretty remarkable that they still will supply glass for a unit that old. Even if it takes a while to get it. There are not many if any companies that I can think of that do that. 

     

    Josh 

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  • 05-09-2008 3:56 PM In reply to

    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

    You can chat with Ron C (Ron Cornelius) in the MAC section of Audiokarma.  He is a great guy and knows the innards.

    Auduiclassics is great too.  I have had to ship things to MAC before and also talked with them on the phone.  All good experiences.

    I hpe you get your glass replaced.

    jc

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  • 05-09-2008 6:08 PM In reply to

    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

     When I replaced the glass and light bulbs in my 2105 a few years back, everything was in stock. I had them in about 1 week.

     Sorry to hear about your troubles Art Sad

    JM 

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  • 05-09-2008 7:40 PM In reply to

    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

    Audio Classics gets their glass from Mac. When I placed an order for a 6100 faceplate in August, they had the production run and filled the order in March. I have seen three 130s in St. Louis with broken faceplate glass, so maybe the run is right around the corner, Artto.

  • 05-09-2008 7:44 PM In reply to

    • Garyrc
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    Re: Don't Buy McIntosh

    What a far cry from the days of the McIntosh Clinic when they would repair any old McIntosh piece of gear --- often on the spot -- and at no charge!

     Customer service used to be a high priority, at least on the part of certain companies such as Mcintosh, JBL and Klipsch (as far as I know it is still in style with Klipsch).  JBL replaced an expensive tweeter I dropped from above a movie screen --- in about 5 days, for free!  They had a "Lifetime Warranty" then that excluded mishandling, but waved the rule for me, without my asking.

    Paul Klipsch wrote a customer who asked if he should buy a K-Horn upgrade, advising him to give the money to the customer's favorite charity, and consider some future upgrade, when the audible difference would be greater.

    Bring customer service back in style!

    Gary R Camp
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