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  • 11-23-2008 4:33 PM

    icon vs synergy vs reference

    Ive been looking at surround systems for about the same price that feature either the F3's the VF-36 and the RF-82 side speakers.

    It *seems* like I can build a system featuring any of those speakers and comparable center, side and sub speakers for around the same price but not sure if there is much appreciable difference.

    Now I am not an audio person at all but on my $500 surrond sound system in a box I cant stand the lousy center speaker where it sounds like everyone is trapped in a small metalic box coved in blankets.

    We'll be watching a lot of blue ray movies and playing games with music a distant 3rd.

    Does anyone have any thoughts or advice?

    Thanks!

     

  • 11-23-2008 4:46 PM In reply to

    • willland
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    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

    Welcome to the forum.  If you don't have any WAF issues, go for the RF-82's. .  The 82's will give you lots of volume, good bass, and a great soundstage.  Make sure you pair them up with the proper center,surrounds, and sub.  Here are Klipsch's recommendations: http://www.klipsch.com/products/details/rf-82-home-theater-system.aspx.

    Bill

    Family Room(5.1 System)

    Onkyo TX-SR705 Receiver
    B&K Reference 4430 3-Channel Amp(200w)
    Klipsch RF-63(cherry) Fronts
    Klipsch RC-64(cherry) Center
    Klipsch RSX-4 Surrounds
    Klipsch RSW-10d(cherry) Sub
    Onkyo DV-SP1000 Universal Player
    Panasonic DMP-BD30K
    Mitsubishi 57731 DLP
    Dish VIP211k HD
    Monster HDP 2400

    Family Room(2-channel)

    Luxman R-115 receiver
    Denon POA-1500 2-Channel amp(150w)
    Denon DCD-1500 CD Player
    Denon TU-800 Tuner
    Klipsch Quartet's(oak oil/black)
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Spare Bedroom(Vintage 2-Channel System)

    Marantz(1977) 2252b Stereo Receiver---2 channel setup
    HH Scott(1987) DA952 CD Player---2 channel setup
    Klipsch(1985) Forte's(oak oil)---2 channel setup
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Master Bedroom(3.1 System)

    Onkyo HT-R500 Receiver
    Klipsch RVX-42's LCR
    Klipsch RW-10d Sub
    Toshiba HD-A30
    Samsung LN37A550 LCD
    Dish VIP211k HD
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  • 11-23-2008 4:53 PM In reply to

    • jamesV
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    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

    Welcome to the forum.

      I would say to purchase the best front speakers you can afford, even if you have to purchase your setup on pieces.  Or to purchase the front three speakers and work out the rest later.

      Of the three that you mentioned I would also go with the RF-82 setup.

    James

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  • 11-23-2008 4:59 PM In reply to

    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

     Thanks James!

     Ok so keep in mind I'm a n00b, but what center channel would go well witht he RF-82. The c3 I was going to get with the F3 seems to be better then then the RC52. would the RC62 be more comparable. (on paper it looks that way but i have no clue what i am really looking at lol

    Also what is better: the RF82 or RF83 for floor speakers?

  • 11-23-2008 5:12 PM In reply to

    • twheats1
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    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

    The matching center channel for the RF 82 is the RC 62.

    The RF 83's are better than the RF 82's. They are more efficient, have better bass response, and a MUCH larger price tag.

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  • 11-23-2008 5:24 PM In reply to

    • jamesV
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    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

    Yes, as mentioned the RF-83 are the top of the line in the Reference series.

    I guess the first thing is how much do you want to spend?

    Then you can go to the "Recommended Systems" page to figure out which one to get.  Plus it will have the entire setup as to which speakers match.  Here it is, http://www.klipsch.com/products/lists/floorstanding-systems.aspx.

    James

    Got stopped at the mall the other day
    Heard a call from the other way
    that I just came from, some ni**a was sayin somethin
    talkin bout "Hey man, you remember me from school?" smoke some
    Naw not really but he kept smilin like a clown
    facial expression lookin silly
    And he kept askin me, what kind of car you drive, I know you paid
    I know y'all got buku of h**s from all them songs that y'all done made
    And I replied that I had been goin through tha same thing that he had
    True I got more fans than the average man but not enough loot to last me
    to the end of the week, I live by the beat like you live check to check
    If you don't move yo' feet then I don't eat, so we like neck to neck
    Yes we done come a long way like them Slim a** cigarettes
    from Virginia, this ain't gon stop so we just gonna continue
  • 11-23-2008 5:35 PM In reply to

    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

    ok wow yeah it does get pricey and i just noticed BB or CC doesn't carry anything higher then synergy or icon.

    so betweent the F3 and the VF-36 is there a clear winner?

  • 11-23-2008 7:03 PM In reply to

    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

    I say the F3 but I'm bias because that's the same line of speakers I have.  It's also bias cuz I've never heard the VF36's.  The F3 is "a lot of speaker" if you know what I mean.  the only reason I didn't get them is due to my price range.  I have the F2's and they are PLENTY of speaker for my needs.  You would need a pretty darn big room to push them to distortion.  I've had mine up way past "comfortable" listening levels, and they were still crystal clear.  You should check them out.  And you'd save enough over the F3's to get the C2 center!

    5.2 System:
    Hitachi 52" HDTV (Non HDMI)
    Pioneer VSX-2016AVs (surrounds & subs)
    ROTEL RB-956AX (left, center, right)
    Sony BDP-S350 Blu Ray player
    Monster Power HTS1600MKII powercenter
    F2 mains
    C2 center
    S1 surrounds
    RW 10
    Sub 12
    Logitech Harmony 550 remote

    It's sort of like Synergy on steroids!!!
  • 11-23-2008 7:09 PM In reply to

    • Bill H.
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    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

     Disregard my eailer post.

    I too suggest the RF 82 system of the ones you spoke about.  Best bang for your buck over the VF 36 system...........


  • 11-23-2008 8:19 PM In reply to

    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

    well I kind of goofed. I'm only going to buy from BB or CC because they have no interest specials going on and i didn't realize that they don't sell the reference.

    So now my decesion is between the F3 and VF 36 but no clue how they compare as I can't listen to them at my store (they dont have them setup)

  • 11-23-2008 8:31 PM In reply to

    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

    hdgamerdude:
    Now I am not an audio person at all but on my $500 surrond sound system in a box I cant stand the lousy center speaker where it sounds like everyone is trapped in a small metalic box coved in blankets.
     

    A little off topic but your above comment made me think of the other day when I was talking to a new co-worker and the subject turned to home theater.  I told him that my center speaker weighed over 52 pounds and he almost fell over.  He said that his practically fits in the palm of his hand.  Stick out tongue

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  • 11-23-2008 8:48 PM In reply to

    • willland
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    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

    Before you go that route, see if BB/Magnolia can special order Klipsch Reference speakers.  If not Vanns.com has no interest offers also.

    http://www.vanns.com/shop/content/gecard.jsp

    Bill

    Family Room(5.1 System)

    Onkyo TX-SR705 Receiver
    B&K Reference 4430 3-Channel Amp(200w)
    Klipsch RF-63(cherry) Fronts
    Klipsch RC-64(cherry) Center
    Klipsch RSX-4 Surrounds
    Klipsch RSW-10d(cherry) Sub
    Onkyo DV-SP1000 Universal Player
    Panasonic DMP-BD30K
    Mitsubishi 57731 DLP
    Dish VIP211k HD
    Monster HDP 2400

    Family Room(2-channel)

    Luxman R-115 receiver
    Denon POA-1500 2-Channel amp(150w)
    Denon DCD-1500 CD Player
    Denon TU-800 Tuner
    Klipsch Quartet's(oak oil/black)
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Spare Bedroom(Vintage 2-Channel System)

    Marantz(1977) 2252b Stereo Receiver---2 channel setup
    HH Scott(1987) DA952 CD Player---2 channel setup
    Klipsch(1985) Forte's(oak oil)---2 channel setup
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Master Bedroom(3.1 System)

    Onkyo HT-R500 Receiver
    Klipsch RVX-42's LCR
    Klipsch RW-10d Sub
    Toshiba HD-A30
    Samsung LN37A550 LCD
    Dish VIP211k HD
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  • 11-23-2008 9:06 PM In reply to

    • Bill H.
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    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

     Crutchfield.com also has no payments/no interest if payed in 6 months................

    Trust us when we say you won't regreat buying these without hearing them.............You can thank us later...........

    Another way to go is wait and save up your money until you can afford them.   No need to open up another line of credit in times like these !


  • 11-23-2008 9:23 PM In reply to

    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

    Bill H.:
    Another way to go is wait and save up your money until you can afford them.   No need to open up another line of credit in times like these !
     

    Totally agree with Bill here.  Cash is king.  Your speakers sound better when they are not on a payment plan.  Big Smile

    I would look online to find other BB stores.  Give them a call to see if they carry the speakers you are interested in.  Then you can listen first hand to see if that is what you are looking for.

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    103" Elite Cinescope (2.35:1) Screen
    Yamaha RX-V1800
    Klipsch RF-83's (Cherry)
    Klipsch RC-64 (Cherry)
    Klipsch RB-35 Rears
    Velodyne HGS15 Sub
    Harmony One (on it's way)
    Klipsch Promedia 5.1
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  • 11-23-2008 9:24 PM In reply to

    Re: icon vs synergy vs reference

    Bill H.:
    Crutchfield.com also has no payments/no interest if payed in 6 months................
     

    Problem is most people do not pay it off in 6 months.  I've made that mistake before.  1 year, no interest.  I'll pay it off by then.  Yeah right.  It didn't happen.  LOL

    Panasonic AE3000u Projector
    103" Elite Cinescope (2.35:1) Screen
    Yamaha RX-V1800
    Klipsch RF-83's (Cherry)
    Klipsch RC-64 (Cherry)
    Klipsch RB-35 Rears
    Velodyne HGS15 Sub
    Harmony One (on it's way)
    Klipsch Promedia 5.1
    PS3 (80 gig) for Blu-ray
    Wii

    Photo Gallery of Completed Theater Room
    My HT Build thread
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