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Last post 06-04-2009 2:13 PM by SandmanXP. 16 replies.
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  • 06-02-2009 1:17 AM

    Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    Looking for opinions and advice from you knowledgable and experienced Klipsch fans.

    I have a pair of Forte IIs that love, but I don't listen to music as much as I once did. I don't really consider myself an audiophile, just lucked into some good speakers that I've been happy with. Been using them lately with some no-name el-cheapo bookshelf speakers in a makeshift 5.0 setup.  Finally got the wife to go for a 46" HDTV and I want to improve the HT setup. 

    I've been thinking about selling the Fortes and getting someting like the Quintet or HD Theater setup.  After reading around and listening to the Fortes some more, I am reminded how good they sound and worry that I'll have seller's remorse, so I am considering trying to build a real 5.1 setup around them.

    I might try for an Academy, but it's probably more reasonable to get a single Forte I or Forte II for the center.  For the sides, I need something smaller - preferably on the wall, but maybe not (locally I've seen a pair of KG 3.5 for $200 and saw at least one guy here post that he was happy with them as sides).  Also, would I really need a sub with that much floor speaker?

    The HT room is about 12'w x 13.5'd.   I can't help but wonder if 3 Fortes and 2 KG 3.5s wouldn't be a bit overkill.  Wife Approval Factor is an obvious concern, too.

    If I moved to something like Quintet would I really regret it?  Or, would I be satisfied in getting a decent matched set of speakers for HT in my small room?

    What would you recommend?

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  • 06-02-2009 2:00 AM In reply to

    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    You would regret going from Forte IIs to Quintets BIG TIME.

    I would be one of the "at least one guy"s who is very happy with his KG 3.5s as side surrounds.  They have a much fuller sound to them than the RS-42s they replaced.  You can usually find some floorstanding KG speakers for $100-250 on craigslist and eBay pretty often.

    For the center speaker a single Forte II as a center would be the most perfect match.  Although, read my recent findings about running an RC-3 with Forte II fronts:  http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/t/120531.aspx

    As far as a sub goes, if you watch a lot of movies you'll probably want to get one.  Forte IIs have awesome bass but not the deep bass of today's LFE tracks on movies.  If you mainly listen to music you can probably get by without a sub, but I've always liked a sub in my setup.

    And welcome to the forums! Yes

    -Mark
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  • 06-02-2009 6:25 AM In reply to

    • Klorslug
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    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    wuzzzer:

    You would regret going from Forte IIs to Quintets BIG TIME.

    Totally agree....

    Picked up my Quintet III's as a "starter" so that I had a 5 peice for my HT.

    Bought the Sub 12 knowing I was going to upgrade. Then came the F2's, and in a couple of weeks I'll get the C-2.

    So personally i'd build your HT around the Forte's

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  • 06-02-2009 8:23 AM In reply to

    • EM3
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    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    Keep the Fortes like the other said.  So far you have gotten some good advice.  I would offer this as advice and I hate to say it but you can do better than Klipsch subs as far as price goes (sorry Klipsch).  You may want to look at the internet direct companies and there are several.  With a room that small you wouldn't have to drive them hard at all to fill the room with sound.  I'm not really sure how thick (depth) Fortes are and that will reduce your floor space.  You may want some surronds that go on the wall but that's just a thought.

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  • 06-02-2009 11:48 AM In reply to

    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    keep the Forte's! 

    don't know the best surrounds, i only have experience with the rs-42's.  i also have a reference set up so they sound great.  i would say get 5 fortes if you could, not for any other reason than just to have them.  there is also a lot of mods you can do to the fortes them make them sound even better.  

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  • 06-02-2009 12:03 PM In reply to

    • dtel
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    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    I use 3 forte ll's across the front and original forte's for the rears and the extra forte ll for a rear center for 6.1.

    So I would stick with the forte if I were you, you are not going to find anything that will even come close to that sound for twice the price you would pay. For rears speakers some of the post before this had some good ideas, the rears are not nearly as important as the front 3, keep them matching if nothing else.

    You will be shocked what a forte HT & sub will sound like, guaranteed ! 

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  • 06-02-2009 1:29 PM In reply to

    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    Thank you all for the input.  I guess I'll hold on to the Forte IIs for now.  I'm going to try and snag the KG 3.5s I mentioned and see how long it takes the wife to notice them tucked in the sides Smile.  Then I'll be on the lookout for a single Forte II after I save a little more pocket $$.

  • 06-02-2009 5:10 PM In reply to

    • dtel
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    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    I think that would be the smart move, there sound will amaze you after they are set up and balanced.

    "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
    safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Champagne in one hand - strawberries with whipped cream in the other hand, body
    thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!"

  • 06-02-2009 7:40 PM In reply to

    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

     Well, I guess everyone's said it and you've made your decision, but for the love of God, keep the fortes =D

     

    If you live in WA state my Dad is selling a pair of KG 3.5s in black that are in very good condition, listed in garage sale but no pics as of yet.

    -Josh

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  • 06-02-2009 10:29 PM In reply to

    • lo123
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    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    I've heard Forte's in Cal Blacksmith's setup and they rock.  Been looking for a pair ever since.

     

    larry

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  • 06-03-2009 3:12 AM In reply to

    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    White_Hawk:

     If you live in WA state my Dad is selling a pair of KG 3.5s in black that are in very good condition, listed in garage sale but no pics as of yet.

     

    I'm in Seattle.  Thanks for the info, but my Fortes are oak (I think), so I'm not looking for black.  The KG 3.5s I'm looking at locally tomorrow appear to have an oiled wood veneer.

  • 06-03-2009 3:24 AM In reply to

    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    dtel:

    I think that would be the smart move, there sound will amaze you after they are set up and balanced.

     

     

    That's from Mr. Forte hisself ! 

    KEEP EM!

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  • 06-03-2009 10:13 AM In reply to

    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    SandmanXP:
    I'm in Seattle.  Thanks for the info, but my Fortes are oak (I think), so I'm not looking for black.  The KG 3.5s I'm looking at locally tomorrow appear to have an oiled wood veneer.
     

    They're probably medium oak like mine.  They aren't a perfect match to the Forte's oak oil but close enough since in most setups the speakers aren't too close to each other to compare the color.

    -Mark
    --1992 Oak Oil Klipsch forté IIs with Bob Crites (BEC) networks & titanium diaphragms
    ---1994 Medium Oak Klipsch KG 3.5 surrounds
    ----SVS CS-Ultra
    -----Samson S1000 pro amp
    ------Marantz SR7001 THX Select2 receiver
    -------Sony PlayStation 3 (60gig)
    --------Nintendo Wii
    ---------Mitsubishi WD65C9 65" DLP HDTV - 1080p 120Hz
    ----------Klipsch ProMedia 2.0 in the office

  • 06-03-2009 3:07 PM In reply to

    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

    I even have a better idea.

    Keep your Forte II but make them sound brand new and go after one of the companies that make new crossovers. I went with Bob Crites from B&K sound on my Forte II and now music and movies have never sounded better. The new crossovers really make the mid range sound alot better than the original crossover. I also replace the Titanium diaphrams from Bob and after a couple of weeks of break in the highs are simply mar-vel-ous. So around $350 investment you will think you have new speakers. Here is the web site: http://www.critesspeakers.com/.

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  • 06-04-2009 10:05 AM In reply to

    Re: Build HT around Forte IIs or start over?

     Fort'e mains, Acadamey center, Quartet sides and KG1.5 backs dirven by a Yamaha 663 with the powering of the mains split off to a Fort'e amp. AHHHHH, the sound is awesome. It is hard to go wrong with Fort'e speakers, regardless of the application.

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