The Marantz is okay, but I crave more power, so I'm wanting to go the seperates route which was at first recommended my many of you fine gentlemen.  You live and you learn right, sometimes the hard way.

So far I've heard, with a XPA-5 combined with a XPA-2, you get 7 channel setup... If thats true, then all I need to decide on is a Pre-Amp hopefully... but I dont know if I'll need an additional XPA-2 to power the subs.  I'm not sure how that works for the .1 and .2...  I need lots of channels (more than 7) and have to ability to run 2 subs because eveunually I will be wanting a 7.2 setup.

I'm looking for a pre amp that can provide many bells and whistles, sirius being one of them, also a really good supply of surround settings.    Wifi access to communicate with windows vista is a plus.

I will be pushing the RF-83's and the RC-64... and will eventually upgrad my side surrounds and surrounds backs as well to the RS-62 and RB-61... I have officially contracted the upgrade bug...

Might I suggest a Sunfire TGP-5.  There are several on Agon NIB for a VERY reasonable cost.  These things are the best.  I have a TGP II and would love to have the 5. 

I've seen them prices as low as $1300.00.  Normally their nearly 4K.  Not sure if serious is an option, but doesn't serious make a docking station for home stereo's.  I think that'd be a better option.  I have XM on my GMC truck.  It's great, but I don't drive the truck very often.  I wish I had a portable unit that I could pop in and out of the truck and pop into a home dock, saving on multiple units.  Only other option is, have a small laptop connected to the internet, and connected to the pre-amp, then you'd have Serious/Xm over the net while you have a unit in your car?

Also, if you can swing it, get a Sunfire amp.  They are Awsome!!!

im trying to find the support site so i can take a look at specs and product manual.  what is the home site for this product. i keep getting "reviews" to come up when i google it

Here you go.

http://www.sunfire.com/pdf/TGP5_manual.pdf

If I had about $1000.00 cash right now, I'd offer you my TGP II, and go get one of these bad boys myself.

I have never heard one but Outlaw Audio has a 970 pre-amp on sell for $290 ( I think). I have red good things about Outlaw. I wish I had the cash.

MistaChy:

I have officially contracted the upgrade bug...

MistaChy,

Your system profile says RF-83's(coming soon).  Have you actually received your RF-83's and hooked them up to your Marantz yet?  If not, wait.  The "synergy" between the Marantz and the 83's may be great.  It is your hard earned $$$ to spend but I would wait and listen first.  If then you feel it is lacking, add a 3, 5, or 7 channel amp for some boost. I believe the 8002 would make a great preamp for maybe another Marantz amp or any other quality amp.

Bill

PLEASE re-read my post in this thread http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/t/121218.aspx and take it seriously to heart!

"I don't want to sound rude and I know your money is your money but by your recent threads it seems that you don't really care how much money you're throwing at your system.  If you take your time and do some research you'll be able to invest your money into things that will really improve the quality of your system and not have to resort on throwing something together and then spending more money on upgrades immediately after."

Good point Wuzzer.

I don't want to be rude either but, I feel like all are help is going in one ear and out the other.

willland:

MistaChy:

I have officially contracted the upgrade bug...

MistaChy,

Your system profile says RF-83's(coming soon).  Have you actually received your RF-83's and hooked them up to your Marantz yet?  If not, wait.  The "synergy" between the Marantz and the 83's may be great.  It is your hard earned $$$ to spend but I would wait and listen first.  If then you feel it is lacking, add a 3, 5, or 7 channel amp for some boost. I believe the 8002 would make a great preamp for maybe another Marantz amp or any other quality amp.

Bill

thats probably a good idea, but what you are suggesting is that i run the front speakers off of an external amp?

wuzzzer:

PLEASE re-read my post in this thread http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/t/121218.aspx and take it seriously to heart!

"I don't want to sound rude and I know your money is your money but by your recent threads it seems that you don't really care how much money you're throwing at your system.  If you take your time and do some research you'll be able to invest your money into things that will really improve the quality of your system and not have to resort on throwing something together and then spending more money on upgrades immediately after."

JChapman:

I don't want to be rude either but, I feel like all are help is going in one ear and out the other.

all my life ive been a receiver man, i wanted to give it one last shot before i tossed the idea out the window and migrate to seperates like what was suggested so many times.  i may not have did exactly as suggested, but those suggestions were definately heard and are now being excersized... your help is appreciated, i dont know why you would think otherwise

MistaChy:

thats probably a good idea, but what you are suggesting is that i run the front speakers off of an external amp?

I said if once you get the Marantz hooked up to your RF-83's, take an objective listen and then decide if it is lacking.  When I felt like my Onkyo really did not have enough oomp to run my whole setup, I bought a used B&K 200w 3-channel amp and the difference was astonishing.  The Onkyo had enough juice for most 2 channel applications with my RF-63's, but it lacked noticeably with all channels running.  My Onkyo works great as a preamp and running my surrounds.  I firmly believe your Marantz with it's better power supply and preamp section would run circles around my Onkyo.

Bill

willland:

MistaChy:

thats probably a good idea, but what you are suggesting is that i run the front speakers off of an external amp?

I said if once you get the Marantz hooked up to your RF-83's, take an objective listen and then decide if it is lacking.  When I felt like my Onkyo really did not have enough oomp to run my whole setup, I bought a used B&K 200w 3-channel amp and the difference was astonishing.  The Onkyo had enough juice for most 2 channel applications with my RF-63's, but it lacked noticeably with all channels running.  My Onkyo works great as a preamp and running my surrounds.  I firmly believe your Marantz with it's better power supply and preamp section would run circles around my Onkyo.

Bill

i am sure that his center is using the third channel....and the sub is self powered and has an amp built in to it