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  • 12-20-2009 10:59 PM

    • ka7niq
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    Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

    I HATE this freaking forum, I HAD a post that took me 1/2 an hour to type, and LOST the post, trying to tag the gad dang thing!

    I bought these Cornwall 2's locally here in Tampa from a man who bought them from Betty, on this forum.

    I want to  get inside them to check connections, replace caps, etc, etc.

    Any idea how to get at the crossover, and anyone have a schmatic of this crossover, soo I can order caps from Madisound ?

    DJK is right, these are good seakers, FAR better IMHO, to the 2 sets of Cornwall 1's I have owned.

    DJK was right about the original Forte's too, a great speaker, for the money, just too small for my tastes/room.

     

    Electro Voice Sentry III's
    Cornwall 2's With Crites Titanium Diapraghms
    Amp- Moscode 600
    Custom Tube Line Stage
    B&W Matrix 801's
    Von Schweikert VR 4 JR's
    TEAC Digital amp
    Oracle Turntable w/ Itok arm
    Koetsu Onyx
    JVC DVD CD Player w/ Lite Dac 72 Tube Dac
    Audioquest GR 8
    Vampire interconnects, etc
    Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida
  • 12-21-2009 2:45 AM In reply to

    • Bill H.
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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

     Get ahold of member

    http://www.critesspeakers.com/prices-crossover_repair_kit.html


    He Has copies of the Scematics.............his repair kit is Only 50.00..............

  • 12-21-2009 2:59 AM In reply to

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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

    Bob is a great guy.

    I just need a cornwall II crossover schematic to get the parts values, I just might have the needed caps already ?

    I wonder what other tweaks Cornwall 2 owners have done ?

    I think the midrange horn is plastic ?

    In that case, it shuold not need rope caulk ?

     

     

    Electro Voice Sentry III's
    Cornwall 2's With Crites Titanium Diapraghms
    Amp- Moscode 600
    Custom Tube Line Stage
    B&W Matrix 801's
    Von Schweikert VR 4 JR's
    TEAC Digital amp
    Oracle Turntable w/ Itok arm
    Koetsu Onyx
    JVC DVD CD Player w/ Lite Dac 72 Tube Dac
    Audioquest GR 8
    Vampire interconnects, etc
    Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida
  • 12-21-2009 3:15 AM In reply to

    • Bill H.
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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

     Rope caulk is a wifes tale..................Not Needed .

    http://www.alkeng.com/dload_xo.html

  • 12-21-2009 9:53 AM In reply to

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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

    Yeah, especially on plastic horns.

    More interested in crossover parts upgrades, and to do what I think DJK said to do.

    I have to check the old thread, but I recall him saying to solder the wires directly to the drivers/crossover that use push on connectors ?

    Maybe there are some more Cornwall 2 Tweaks/Mods that make good sense ?

    I have owned 2 pairs of Cornwall 1's.

    DJK is right about the Cornwall 2, it is a much improved speaker IMHO then the Cornwall 1.

     I was up till 3 am last night listening to the Cornwall 2's.

    Can't wait to get inside them, and update the crossovers, if I only had a schematic .....

     

    Electro Voice Sentry III's
    Cornwall 2's With Crites Titanium Diapraghms
    Amp- Moscode 600
    Custom Tube Line Stage
    B&W Matrix 801's
    Von Schweikert VR 4 JR's
    TEAC Digital amp
    Oracle Turntable w/ Itok arm
    Koetsu Onyx
    JVC DVD CD Player w/ Lite Dac 72 Tube Dac
    Audioquest GR 8
    Vampire interconnects, etc
    Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida
  • 12-21-2009 10:58 AM In reply to

    • BEC
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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

     Cornwall II schematic.

     Bob Crites


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    If it tests good and sounds bad, you might be an audiophile.

    If it tests bad and sounds good, you might be an audiophile.
  • 12-21-2009 11:45 AM In reply to

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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

    BEC:

     Cornwall II schematic.

     Bob Crites

    Thanks Bob !

    The woofer cap, is that 68 mfd, or 6.8 ?

     

    Electro Voice Sentry III's
    Cornwall 2's With Crites Titanium Diapraghms
    Amp- Moscode 600
    Custom Tube Line Stage
    B&W Matrix 801's
    Von Schweikert VR 4 JR's
    TEAC Digital amp
    Oracle Turntable w/ Itok arm
    Koetsu Onyx
    JVC DVD CD Player w/ Lite Dac 72 Tube Dac
    Audioquest GR 8
    Vampire interconnects, etc
    Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida
  • 12-21-2009 11:46 AM In reply to

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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

    It is 68uF. Bob
    Audiophile n. A person who claims to hear the inaudible.

    Annoying Audiophile - A person who claims that others may be trained to hear the inaudible unless they are deaf.

    With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy:

    If it tests good and sounds bad, you might be an audiophile.

    If it tests bad and sounds good, you might be an audiophile.
  • 12-21-2009 11:55 AM In reply to

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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

     Picture of the early Cornwall II gnarly crossover before they had them built on a circuit board.  Burn on the edge by cigarette or soldering iron may have been an added option.

    Bob Crites

     


    Audiophile n. A person who claims to hear the inaudible.

    Annoying Audiophile - A person who claims that others may be trained to hear the inaudible unless they are deaf.

    With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy:

    If it tests good and sounds bad, you might be an audiophile.

    If it tests bad and sounds good, you might be an audiophile.
  • 12-21-2009 12:21 PM In reply to

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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

    BEC:

     Picture of the early Cornwall II gnarly crossover before they had them built on a circuit board.  Burn on the edge by cigarette or soldering iron may have been an added option.

    Bob Crites

     

    Thanks Bob !

    Those look like Mylar Caps ?

    If they are Mylar, I would not think they would be Bad ?

    I have never measured a bad Mylar capacitor, unless it was blown up.

    They seem to age well ?

    Many Mylar Caps are pretty high in ESR, if I recall ?

    The reason I am asking this Bob is because the tweeters in my Cornwall 2's seem a little slow, or sluggish sounding.

    Perhaps the diapragms are aging, and replacing them will be a better course of action then replacing Mylar Caps that are most likely still good.

    What is your experience with refurbishing Cornwall 2's Bob ?

    What do you see your Cornwalls II customers doing ?

     

     

    Electro Voice Sentry III's
    Cornwall 2's With Crites Titanium Diapraghms
    Amp- Moscode 600
    Custom Tube Line Stage
    B&W Matrix 801's
    Von Schweikert VR 4 JR's
    TEAC Digital amp
    Oracle Turntable w/ Itok arm
    Koetsu Onyx
    JVC DVD CD Player w/ Lite Dac 72 Tube Dac
    Audioquest GR 8
    Vampire interconnects, etc
    Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida
  • 12-21-2009 12:41 PM In reply to

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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

    Most of my customers completely replace that crossover.  Some rebuild it on the same board using lots better caps than those on the board.  And most of those cheap little blue caps test pretty bad by now for ESR at least.  

     Most also opt for the titanium tweeter diaphragms to liven up the tweeters.  They are smoother and extend higher.

     Bob Crites

     

    Audiophile n. A person who claims to hear the inaudible.

    Annoying Audiophile - A person who claims that others may be trained to hear the inaudible unless they are deaf.

    With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy:

    If it tests good and sounds bad, you might be an audiophile.

    If it tests bad and sounds good, you might be an audiophile.
  • 12-21-2009 1:11 PM In reply to

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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

    BEC:

    Most of my customers completely replace that crossover.  Some rebuild it on the same board using lots better caps than those on the board.  And most of those cheap little blue caps test pretty bad by now for ESR at least.  

     Most also opt for the titanium tweeter diaphragms to liven up the tweeters.  They are smoother and extend higher.

     Bob Crites

     

    Ok, that was allI was waiting to hear Bob !

    I see on the Cornwall II Tweeter K 79 Titanium Diapraghms on Ebay from you.

    But before I buy them, what about the K 52 midrange diapraghms Bob.

    Do you think they are OK, or are there upgrades there too

     

    Electro Voice Sentry III's
    Cornwall 2's With Crites Titanium Diapraghms
    Amp- Moscode 600
    Custom Tube Line Stage
    B&W Matrix 801's
    Von Schweikert VR 4 JR's
    TEAC Digital amp
    Oracle Turntable w/ Itok arm
    Koetsu Onyx
    JVC DVD CD Player w/ Lite Dac 72 Tube Dac
    Audioquest GR 8
    Vampire interconnects, etc
    Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida
  • 12-21-2009 1:15 PM In reply to

    • ka7niq
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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

    BEC:

    Most of my customers completely replace that crossover.  Some rebuild it on the same board using lots better caps than those on the board.  And most of those cheap little blue caps test pretty bad by now for ESR at least.  

     Most also opt for the titanium tweeter diaphragms to liven up the tweeters.  They are smoother and extend higher.

     Bob Crites

     

    Forgot to ask you WHY you dont use the felt damping pad under the new titanium diapraghms for the Cornwall 2 K 79 driver Bob ?

    Just wondered ?

    Electro Voice Sentry III's
    Cornwall 2's With Crites Titanium Diapraghms
    Amp- Moscode 600
    Custom Tube Line Stage
    B&W Matrix 801's
    Von Schweikert VR 4 JR's
    TEAC Digital amp
    Oracle Turntable w/ Itok arm
    Koetsu Onyx
    JVC DVD CD Player w/ Lite Dac 72 Tube Dac
    Audioquest GR 8
    Vampire interconnects, etc
    Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida
  • 12-21-2009 1:31 PM In reply to

    • ka7niq
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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

    BEC:

    Most of my customers completely replace that crossover.  Some rebuild it on the same board using lots better caps than those on the board.  And most of those cheap little blue caps test pretty bad by now for ESR at least.  

     Most also opt for the titanium tweeter diaphragms to liven up the tweeters.  They are smoother and extend higher.

     Bob Crites

     

    Bob, WHY would one replace the whole crossovers ?

    I mean inductors dont go bad, right ?

    Why NOT replace just the Caps, am I missing something ?

     

    Electro Voice Sentry III's
    Cornwall 2's With Crites Titanium Diapraghms
    Amp- Moscode 600
    Custom Tube Line Stage
    B&W Matrix 801's
    Von Schweikert VR 4 JR's
    TEAC Digital amp
    Oracle Turntable w/ Itok arm
    Koetsu Onyx
    JVC DVD CD Player w/ Lite Dac 72 Tube Dac
    Audioquest GR 8
    Vampire interconnects, etc
    Roof Cleaning Tampa Florida
  • 12-21-2009 3:41 PM In reply to

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    Re: Klipsch Cornwall 2's In Tampa

    No upgrade to the midrange yet.  I have so far had two different prototype titanium diaphragms made for that midrange and have rejected both of those samples.

    Bob Crites

    Audiophile n. A person who claims to hear the inaudible.

    Annoying Audiophile - A person who claims that others may be trained to hear the inaudible unless they are deaf.

    With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy:

    If it tests good and sounds bad, you might be an audiophile.

    If it tests bad and sounds good, you might be an audiophile.
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