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Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

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  • 07-13-2003 1:00 AM

    Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

    What do you guys think? I'm having these dynaco stereo 400's internally bridged to put out 600 watts each in mono and will then power my cornwalls with them!

    Overkill ...yes, but nothing succeeds like excess right?


  • 07-13-2003 1:36 AM In reply to

    Re: Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

    OK,I have to ask//// WHY?? OK,yes..Headroom issues etc.. I really doubt at any point you will ever get the full sound of the amp so it is purring along full dynamically at 600WPC cause it will never be really on unless you like your ears to bleed etc etc.. Yes overkill to the extreem.

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  • 07-13-2003 4:30 AM In reply to

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  • 07-13-2003 7:17 AM In reply to

    Re: Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

    I'd be wooried about how it would sound. Bridged amps are not usually noted for good sound, especially at the 1/4 watt you'll be normally running.
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  • 07-13-2003 8:21 AM In reply to

    Re: Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

    The fast path to permenant hearing damage.

    You seem like an intelligent individual -- what the heck are you thinking man?

    At least go with a passive biamp setup. Bridging with these amps will sound terrible on horns.
  • 07-13-2003 8:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

    Bugbusa,

    It's difficult to design an amp that puts out both clean high power and clean low power. High power amps often distort at low power. I think this is one of the reasons people like SET amps with Klipsch speakers. What you are doing MIGHT not be a good idea.

    Al K.
  • 07-13-2003 8:37 AM In reply to

    Re: Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

    Dear me, all wrong. Wrong.

    Can't you bridge two or four of those together per channel? You need closer to 8000 watts to get those transients properly reproduced. Maybe closer to 80,000.

    Nice try, but try try again.
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  • 07-13-2003 8:46 AM In reply to

    • bkrop
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    Re: Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

    Why did you sell the Scott pre-amp?
  • 07-13-2003 9:13 AM In reply to

    • jt1stcav
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    Re: Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

    BigBusa, those Dynacos are sweet, and bridged to 600 watts mono...what power. If you were drivin' inefficient Magnepans or other such loudspeakers, then I would tell ya to go for it!

    But I must agree with the others that it's way too much power for your Cornwalls (hell, my 100 WPC is too much for my CW's). But I'm no expert by any means, so I'd say to go and at least try it, and see how it sounds to your ears. If it sounds good to you and makes you tap your feet to your favorite tunes, then that's all that really matters in the end.

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  • 07-13-2003 9:55 AM In reply to

    Re: Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

    I sold that scott preamp because I just am not into tube gear. IMO tube gear runs to hot, is old, unreliable, clunky and doesn't sound that good.


    I like the look of the two amps in the cabinet and since I only have one pair of speakers I decide to have the amplifiers bridged so I can use them both. Sure I won't ever use 600 watts but those watts that I do use will be pumped out so effortlessly it'll be crazy! When the work is all done to the amps I'll give a review of the sound. Trust me ...if it doesn't sound at least as good as one st 400 I'll be the first to say so.

    I'm currently powering my CWs with a dynaco st-400 (without the meter option) and love the sound. Very powerful and authoritative.

  • 07-13-2003 9:58 AM In reply to

    • leok
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    Re: Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

    No, I think you need a few more Watts.

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  • 07-13-2003 9:59 AM In reply to

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    Re: Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

    More power to ya (pun intended)! Let us know when you give them a good listen!
  • 07-13-2003 10:02 AM In reply to

    Re: Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?


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    On 7/13/2003 9:55:29 AM BigBusa wrote:

    I sold that scott preamp because I just am not into tube gear. IMO tube gear runs to hot, is old, unreliable, clunky and doesn't sound that good.


    I like the look of the two amps in the cabinet and since I only have one pair of speakers I decide to have the amplifiers bridged so I can use them both. Sure I won't ever use 600 watts but those watts that I do use will be pumped out so effortlessly it'll be crazy! When the work is all done to the amps I'll give a review of the sound. Trust me ...if it doesn't sound at least as good as one st 400 I'll be the first to say so.

    I'm currently powering my CWs with a dynaco st-400 (without the meter option) and love the sound. Very powerful and authoritative.


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    I am totaly with you. I have 400watt bridged amps for my RF-3II. What a great sound. I say do it and you will love it. I am a huge believer in big power. Let use know if it is enough. I would like a little more myself. I am glad to see that atleast one person is with me.
  • 07-13-2003 10:16 AM In reply to

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    This has to be the very first time that I am speechless
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  • 07-13-2003 11:15 AM In reply to

    Re: Will 600 WPC be enough for my Cornwalls?

    Big,
    The guys that have responded are more "expert" than I will ever be. I have listened to Khorns, LAs, Mod-H,and CWs since 1970.(not at the same time ha)
    Give it a shot. I don't know how the Dynas will sound. I BTL two Luxman M-117s at 440wpc. The bottom end support is incredible into the four CWs.Flawless mids and highs and a Tube warmth that many SS amps don't have. I switched over two Crown DC300s years ago and they were nasty. Very cold,snappy,and harsh. JMHO considering the company.

    tc
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