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Last post 07-13-2006 9:07 PM by jbsl. 22 replies.
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  • 07-10-2006 12:44 AM

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    Mullard EL34 re-issue

    There haven't been much discussion on this tube so I thought I'd share my experience.

    First I want to clear something up. These are NOT re-labeled EH or Svetlana. Plate construction is almost identical but their sound is totally different. I've known about them since they were first introduced but didn't buy until a month ago because I was afraid they were relabeled EH which is what a lot of people were saying without even giving them a try.

    I have tried EH and Svetlana. The Mullard sound completely different than these two.

    The new Mullards sound very sweet in my ST-70 (triode strapped) and RF-35. They're the smoothest sounding EL34 tube I've heard (new production). Actually, some people might find them too smooth. They're smoother than EH with a much more polite mid-range. Bass extension is very good. Actually, smooth and warm is the best way to describe the sound of these tubes. They have this incredible ability of smoothing out sibilance or putting it far into the background for more serious cases that you can easily ignore it.

    They have the smoothness of SED with better HF extension. BUT, there is a price to pay for all that smoothness. The mids is less 'vibrant' and less full than SED. There's also a slight loss of detail in the mids. The HF extension is very good (more than SED) but it's so smooth that some minute detail are washed out.

    Even though they have their down side, they're incredibly musical and fun to listen. Definitely the most 'romantic' and 'dreamy' sound I've heard in my rig. They sound so good on soft vocals.

    I don't stick with the same tube all the time. I like to switch every few weeks. Currently rotating SED, EH 6CA7 and Mullard.

    So if you use EL34, give the new Mullard a try.

    Maurice
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  • 07-10-2006 1:56 AM In reply to

    Re: Mullard EL34 re-issue

    It's strange looking at a tube with the Mullard label, and it says made in Russia below it.


  • 07-10-2006 2:25 AM In reply to

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    Re: Mullard EL34 re-issue

    Yeah, I noticed that. We also have Tung Sol from Russia too:).

    I've never heard NOS power tubes. Real Mullard is too much $ for me:(.
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  • 07-10-2006 5:13 AM In reply to

    Re: Mullard EL34 re-issue

    How would you rate them compared to the EH 6CA7? 

    So far the EH 6CA7s have sounded best in my Cayin TA 30.   

    Where did you get yours and how much?

    I would like to try some other 6CA7 tubes so need to do some research on the net. 

    Anyone have any suggestions for 6CA7 tubes? 

    xman

  • 07-10-2006 8:02 AM In reply to

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    I haven't tried the EH 6CA7, but the Ei's. In comparison the the VA EL34 they are less 'creamy' and a tad more analytical (cleaner) in my 8B. But of course this might be quite different in another amp/preamp combo.
    One can certainly read a lot about the 'sound' of different tube brands (which I do as well) but in the end one doesn't really know until one has tried them in one's own setup (IMO).

    BTW: source for the Ei's was an ebay seller in HK (sorry, forgot his name) but Upscale Audio seems to have them as well - not sure about Jim McShane.

    Good luck hunting.

    Wolfram
    Tweaked 1973 Khorns (ALK A/ Altec 511B horns/ JBL 2470 and 2404H drivers); SVS PB12-ISD/2 sub and TUBES- details in System Profile.
  • 07-10-2006 9:12 AM In reply to

    Re: Mullard EL34 re-issue

    Just to make sure there is no misunderstanding, while I am sure there are some differences in tube construction details these "Mullard" tubes are, in fact manufactured by New Sensor; The US company that bought Russia´s Xpo-Pul factory (also known as Reflektor) in Saratov, Russia. New Sensor bought the rights to use the Mullard (and Tungsol as well IIRC) a couple of years ago and produces these as well as the EH and Sovtek and Svetlana tubes.  I have been told they are a nice smooth sounding tube.  Tony
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  • 07-10-2006 4:12 PM In reply to

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    Re: Mullard EL34 re-issue

    Wow, Maurice,

    You should be writing the wine review for the Sunday Paper!

    DRBILL

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  • 07-11-2006 12:23 AM In reply to

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    Re: Mullard EL34 re-issue

    jbsl,
    I enjoy both the EH 6CA7 and the new Mullard. I can't say I like one more than the other, but one thing is for certain, their sound is the complete opposite to eachother. I've been listening to my Mullards more than EH, even though I've had EH for a longer period of time. The Mullard is awesome when you just want to kick back and relax late at night.

    Dubai is correct in describing the 6CA7 sound. The EH is more analytical while the Mullard is probably the 'cremiest' sounding tube I've heard in my ST-70. Mullard is more laid back, warmer and is super smooth from top to bottom. The 6CA7 is more accurate and hyper detailed.


    The only other company I know of that's selling 6CA7 is Ei and Groove Tubes (remake of the GE 6CA7). The Ei seems to be sold out when I checked thetubestore.com and tubedepot.com and the GT is very expensive.

    Hope this helps.


    Sunnysal,
    Thanks for clearing that up. To this point, I'm still not sure if it's an entirely new design or they tried to replicate the XF-2 Mullard sound/curves which New Sensor claimed they did.

    DrBill,
    LoL, I find it funny how wine reviewers use the same words as audio nuts to describe what they taste/hear.



    The BEST power tube I've heard in my Dynaco is the JJ KT77. The reason I'm not using them is because JJ seems to have some serious QC issues. I've gone through 2 quads and both quads wouldn't hold a steady bias. The first quad had a red plate on one tube within the first week.

    There has been discussions about this on audioasylum.com. It got too out of control that Jim McShane decided to stop selling JJ E34L and KT77. I'll be getting another quad as soon as the bugs are fixed.

    Maurice
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  • 07-11-2006 1:20 AM In reply to

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    May have to give these Mullard re issue a try. 

    xman

  • 07-11-2006 1:39 AM In reply to

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    Cool. I'm sure you'll have a blast. They might sound slightly dull on normal speakers, but are wonderful with horns.

    Please let me know what you think of them if you decide to buy. Just to see if we get the same results.
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  • 07-11-2006 1:44 AM In reply to

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    Re: Mullard EL34 re-issue

    jbsl:


    Where did you get yours and how much?


     



    Oops, missed your question here. I got mine from www.thetubestore.com for 37.95/pr.
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    pre- Antique Sound Lab AQ2004-dt
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    Speakers- La Scala
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  • 07-11-2006 2:00 AM In reply to

    Re: Mullard EL34 re-issue

    Yeah I was looking at the Tubestore also.  My order them when I get home for this weekend. 

    I am curious cause all the EL 34s I have tried have sounded harsh on my system, Cayin TA 30.  When I got the EH 6CA7s they were not harsh but sounded smoother and detailed. 

    I'll let you know once I try them.

    xman

  • 07-11-2006 8:58 AM In reply to

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    Re: Mullard EL34 re-issue

    with your Cayin TA30 you may want to try some Mullard El-37s if you can.....I have used Mullard El-34s xf1's , GEC kt-66's and others ..the El-37 sounds best to me with mine -Al
    awsjr
  • 07-11-2006 9:31 AM In reply to

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    Hey there awsjr we missed ya at the party!

    We need to get together some weekend!

    Never heard of the ei 37.  What type of tube is it?  My Cayin can take el 34, kt 88, 6550, kt 90s so if it is a version of one of those it should be able to use it.

    I'm off this Sat(for the moment this is always subject to change working for Dell) if you want to meet for lunch and come over let me know.

    xman

  • 07-11-2006 9:38 AM In reply to

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    I ordered a quad of the Mullard el 34s which should be here Wed or Thur. 

    May need to try some EI el 34s and 12ax7 also. 

     

    xman

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