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Last post 05-09-2008 12:10 AM by Belleman. 19 replies.
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  • 12-02-2007 10:29 PM

    Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

     My Belle Klipsch are about 20 years old.  I have recently added an RC64 Center Speaker and 2 RS25 Surrounds.  What updates are available for the Belles and how do I get them?

  • 12-02-2007 10:47 PM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

    are you handy with a soldering gun?
    DIY Belle's, LSI , Heresy's, Khorns, Marshall 9200, 9100, el20/20, Dyna Mk VI's, MC2000, SF FL2, C1000, EAD 7000 III, MDA1000, Onkyo NAS, MS300;
  • 12-02-2007 10:57 PM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

    You can call 1-800-KLIPSCH parts department to learn about a crossover and driver upgrade package.

    Gil

     

  • 12-02-2007 10:58 PM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

     must have new capacitors in the networks and excellent amplification

    Caps are cheap, excellent amp will be a a bit more pricey. 

    ....Belles (bestowed upon me by the long lost Parrot), walnut oil (with DEANG networks)....Conrad Johnson PV-10B tube preamp(Mullards)....NOS Valves VRD Stereo 45 Power Amp....J. A Michel Focus "S" TT with Grado Gold Cartridge....MSB Link DAC II with upsampling to 24/96 ++++ HT system is Chorus II (DEAN G network mods) based with DVD Audio and SACD; Sherwood Newcastle HT PRE and 5 x 125 power amp
  • 12-02-2007 11:18 PM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

     Yes.

  • 12-02-2007 11:18 PM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

     Thanks, Gil.

  • 12-03-2007 9:19 AM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

    There are some economical aftermarket options to rebuild your crossover with new caps. Either DIY or turnkey. I'd suggest to check with Bob Crites, BEC on this forum. You might see his cap kits on Ebay.

     This option is the closest to restoring your Belle's to original factory spec.

     

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  • 12-03-2007 9:27 AM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

    Oh god, why did you use Reference series speakers with those gorgeous Belle's!  Should have used a Heresy center and rears to keep that unique signature Heritage sound.  That RC-64 center while very nice will stick out like a sore thumb from a timbre aspect when there are right to left or left to right pans across the front stage.

    I guess all that matters is that you are happy though.

     

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  • 12-03-2007 12:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

    Bobby the K:

     My Belle Klipsch are about 20 years old.  I have recently added an RC64 Center Speaker and 2 RS25 Surrounds.  What updates are available for the Belles and how do I get them?

    The only thing I upgraded on my Belles was the crossovers to A / AA convertibles with new caps. That was the only change mine needed as those caps are out of spec by now. I have replaced crossovers on Belles and Khorns both times it was very rewarding. I recently upgraded to the Khorns which have better bass but I feel like I need a high chair as the Belles are at the perfect level for sitting and listening. I would like to be able to move the top hat as well to aim the MF HF which would solve the high chair issue. This may also be in my head LOL..... Enjoy the Belles they are wonderful and beautiful loudspeakers.

    "First off, I don't even consider myself a member of the general public. I know that my own requirements in a loudspeaker are those I've discussed. judging from what contact I have with the general public, though, I conclude that 99 percent of the general public doesn't even know what accuracy of reproduction is. My company is for the one percent composed of perfectionists who buy these expensive speakers." PWK

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  • 12-04-2007 7:10 AM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

    A couple of other updates.... I installed Beyma tweters and Trachorns. This really brought out the sound. I was very happy with the change.

  • 12-04-2007 8:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

    Let me suggest you look at www.klipschcorner.com .  It is a very nice website by forum member Damon P.  Good work, guy.

    It has a history of the Belle with driver and crossover history.  You will enjoy having the information even if it does not tell you what to do to tweek.

    I have not pulled the trigger on buying the update I wrote about above.  Maybe soon.

    As you may know, the LaScala II got a very good review at Stereophile.  It has an updated crossover and thicker walls, now of MDF and veneer.

    In my view, the Belle is far more pretty.  The ugrade of the Belle can be expected to put it in the same type of performance.  I expect that both share crossover topology.  Probably the woofer filter reduces a hump in the mid-bass. The mid is at least a pass-band design - a change from everything which went before. (This may solve the 8 kHz glitch which is reportedly the cause of a "shouty" midrange.)   And the tweeter crossover point is moved down, All this is similar to the new K-Horn also.  This info is based on what I've read and seen without actually doing measurements (Smile).

    The bottom line is that with the upgrade you'll have units much more pretty than the LS II, preforming about the same, without too much cost.

    I have no affiliation with the seller, as they say.

    Gil

     

  • 01-03-2008 6:26 PM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

     Thanks for the info, Gil.  I am going to update my Belles.  It is a good deal since I will basically have new speakers except for the woofers which have been gently used.  They have been hooked up along with a subwoofer and were crossed over around 100Hz.  Do you think the timbre of the sound will change much?  The Belles were built in 1986.

  • 01-03-2008 10:36 PM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

    Bobby the K,

    I'm pleased to hear that you found what you wanted from Klipsch.

    I hesitate to make predictions about something you're going to find out very soon.  OTOH, I expect Klipsch did a very nice job.  Again I reference the LS II review as far as expectations.

    One thought is that your sub has made up for some of the deep bass issues and this puts you in a special situation versus people running without subs.  OTOH, getting things "right" above the sub range can only be beneficial, IMHO.

    Please let us all know what you find with and without the sub running. 

    Best,

    Gil

     

     

  • 01-04-2008 6:41 PM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

    It turns out that my Belles were made in 1984.  I ordered new Tweeters and new AB-2 Crossovers from Bob Crites, to replace my original Tweeters and AB Crossovers,.  I will let you know how it turns out. 

    Regards,

    Bobby the K 

  • 04-28-2008 8:08 PM In reply to

    Re: Updating Belle Klipsch Speakers

    Hello. I have a pair of Oak Bell Klipsch from about 1993. Ive been using a Yamaha R-9 reciever to power them. The speakers ring some. Id like to eliminate the harsh ringing. SO ~ Im now looking for something sweet to power them with. Do you folks perfer a tube amp to power Belle Klipsch? Is my R-9 a poor match with Belle Klipsch speakers? What amplifiers do you recommend for these specific speakers? How can i stop the ringing. Reply here OR to rzo_77@yahoo.com Thank you.

     

    Jim

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