Is anyone familiar with these speakers? I know some of you have owned or still own Frazier speakers and I am wondering if these are worth investigating. I know little about these. They are a two way incorporating a horn and what I believe to be a 12" woofer. I can get these cheap and am waiting for the seller to call me with a time tomorrow when I can audition them. If the cabinets are in good shape and they sound alright I may just snatch them up. I am hoping to go there tomorrow armed with a little bit more info. than I have right now, which is next to nothing.

Please clue me in on these if you can.

Tom

IMHO, Jack Frazier's most successful and best overall design.  I have been of the opinion for years that PWK designed the Heresy in response to the MarkIV.  I have 4 of them.  I've had the opportunity to A/B them with Heresy and prefer the MarkIV...though not by a lot. 

Dave

Mallette:

IMHO, Jack Frazier's most successful and best overall design.  I have been of the opinion for years that PWK designed the Heresy in response to the MarkIV.  I have 4 of them.  I've had the opportunity to A/B them with Heresy and prefer the MarkIV...though not by a lot. 

Dave

Dave,

 do you have any literature on the MarkIV? If you do, can you post it or email me a copy? I would appreciate it. I talked with the seller and he thought it incorporated a 10" woofer. Is this correct? Are they 4 ohm or 8 ohm?

Tom

Tom:
Yes, I do, but like so many things I can't lay a hand on it for the moment. Yes to your first question, and 8ohm on the second.  I've asked pmsummer to post the brochure info on the MarkIV here.  If he doesn't, ping him.  He's also a Frazierhead.

Dave 

 Are you buying them from a record collector/dealer? Goes by Klownskool (sp?) over on AudioKarma?

pmsummer:

 Are you buying them from a record collector/dealer? Goes by Klownskool (sp?) over on AudioKarma?

 As a matter of fact, yes. I spoke with Rick today and had to cancel my trip to check them out. I am shooting for Saturday AM. Rick seems like a pretty good guy. I am looking forward to meeting with him. Thank you for the literature. I like to have paper on all the audio I own. I'm a little weird like that.I have been curious about the Frazier speakers. I would like to check out some of the larger ones but for now these, I hope, will be a good introduction to the brand.

How do you rank this model in the Frazier lineup? A good example of what makes them desirable?

Tom

 Tom,

I think Rick's a fool for selling them.  You are getting a true steal,

I do prefer them to the Heresy. To my ears (but without a lot of listening) they are better balanced, deliver better bass, and are less fussy about placement. They are an outgrowth of the Frazier "Black Box" from the 1950s (best as I can tell). I don't have any, but I do have Monte Carlos, La Fiestas, Midgets, Mk Vs, Capris, and F-12-4Hs.

You are going to like them. Congratulations. 

The frazier cab looks like it's about the same size as the Advent loudspeaker, right?

Tom, they are 8 ohms, and contain a 10" woofer, coupled to a 3x7" horn tweeter. In later versions, we used a piezo tweeter, and the last Mark IV contained a 1" dome tweeter. They were our second biggest seller, right behind the Monte Carlo. Todd

Todd, welcome to our group.  The Klipsch Klan includes a significant number of Frazierheads.  In my case, I have 4 Mark IV's, 3 pairs of MC's (including my first, vintage 1969), 2 pairs super Midgets, one pair Mrk V.  I would have more, but only so much room. 

What was your connection with Jack? 

I am interested in ID'ing the pyramid shaped speaker described in the other Frazier thread in this forum.  Can you help?

Regards,
Dave

Todd Crane:

Tom, they are 8 ohms, and contain a 10" woofer, coupled to a 3x7" horn tweeter. In later versions, we used a piezo tweeter, and the last Mark IV contained a 1" dome tweeter. They were our second biggest seller, right behind the Monte Carlo. Todd

Thank you Todd for the info. and welcome to the forum.

I am really looking forwrd to auditioning these speakers and hopefully adding them to my collection. These will be my first experience with Frazier speakers. I have been interested in them ever since I read how Paul Klipsch and Jack Frazier seemed to have similar ideas on speaker efficiency and seemed to respect each other's ideas and designs. I am loking forwrd to learn more about the Frazier speakers from other forum members. I have tried to research on the net and have not found very much info.

The people on this forum are a good group that are more than willing to help provide info. and other support in all things audio. I, myself, am very happy to be part of this forum.

Tom

Well, I brought the Mark IV's home and have them hooked up to my HK430. They sound pretty good. I am going to be ABing them with my KG4's tonight and tomorrow. I think when I'm done doing that I will put them up against the Heresys and see how they fare. I am not looking  to see which one is better, more so,  how they differ. I have only been listening to them for 30 minutes or so and I can tell a big difference in the mids and highs compared to the KG4's. I really enjoy checking out the different signatures of speakers. I will have to throw a few different genres and artists at these to form a better opinion of them.

Right now Eric Clapton is kickin' out some jams. 

Tom

Looking forward to your experiments...

Dave

Mallette:

Looking forward to your experiments...

Dave

Well, I've been listening to these and the KG4's alternately on the HK 430. I have been switching back and forth  and realizing that the Fraziers tend to be a bit more detailed with a more even balance over the whole frequency range that they emit. The KG4's seem to be a little heavier in the lower frequencies on the same material. I guess I could say that the Fraziers are a bit smoother than the 4's.

 Now, playing all four speakers at the same time has resulted in a fabulous overall sound. I have these set up in a small 12'x10' room. I think the size of these speakers are perfect for this small room.Fraziers in front and KG's in back

I am going to AB the Fraziers and Heresys for a few days and see what differences there are between the two. I think I will hook them up to the Marantz system for this experiment.

So far, I must say, these were a great find.

I am really curious about other Frazier speakers, now more so than before. I'm going to have to keep my eyes peeled for  more examples available on the local craigslist. I'm not a big proponent of shipping.

Like I need more speakers. LOL

Tom