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For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

Last post 05-27-2008 11:29 AM by jtkinney. 28 replies.
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  • 05-22-2008 8:49 PM In reply to

    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

     Seethemusic.....

    I use the Klipsch THX KA1000 sub amp and Klipsch THX 120 sub speakers.. (The velodyne is a management thing that makes the sub EQ to the room) 

    I still go to movies but not as much.  It is better at home.. hehehehehehe

     


    HT: 2008 My Dream La Scala HT System for downstairs is finally 99% done. 7 Split La Scala's, (Timbre up front DOES matter!) Two Klipsch THX KW 120 subs, with the KA 1000 Amp, with the Velodyne SMS-1, Bass management system, with 2 THX series KS-525's as side surrounds. WOW! Dedicated 17' x 30' room, 106" Daylite screen, with the Infocus 7210 DLP Projector. Sunfire Theater Grand IV, Sunfire Signature series 200 x 7 amp. SONY 550 BluRay DVD player. It's Klipsch Nirvana, for me. The ticket booth is open, and the popcorn machine works, So dim the lights, on with the show!!
    **NEW** TSCM bass bins with pro split La Scala tops, just for outdoor fun!
  • 05-22-2008 9:13 PM In reply to

    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

    Thats the main thing, as long as it sounds good:)

    So you must mix a bit? I have five friends who are local DJ's , one of them came by last weekend to try out his latest cd on my system.. He liked it a lot:)

    He now wants a pair of Lascalas. I must add he made a great cd too, he is one of the best DJ's around , mixes LP's and Cd's and letely started using PC to PC mixing...

    I see your 300B's tucked away under the rack:) I heard good things about those amps.. you must like  them.?

  • 05-22-2008 9:22 PM In reply to

    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

    Thanks for that info:)

    You have some nice stuff there:)

    Love tohave 10ft ceiling:) Mine is only 7ft:(

  • 05-22-2008 9:24 PM In reply to

    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

    Nice set up, must be fun

    Not sure what is meant by "Jub"Scalas, I'll probably do  a search on the site here:)

    Must be nice to have such a large room too:)

  • 05-22-2008 9:25 PM In reply to

    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

    ya I bet it is:)

  • 05-22-2008 9:32 PM In reply to

    • BE36
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    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

    I am just a jr member but here is 2 Cents. 

    10' wall to wall, room 10' X 16' X 8' I sit about 8' from the speakers Imaging is great sound is good.  Image is so good today I thought my academy center channel was some how being powered, I had to get up and put my ear to the speaker to belive it was not powered.

    This is a temporary installation.   In 1 - 2 years they will go to a 14' X 20' room.

    Heavy vocal tracks sound best, Dave Matthews, Indigo Girls, N. Jones, Tori Amos.  I also like Classical and rock.  I like it loud and modified ALK x-overs seem to work very, very, well.  Horns reproduce vocal & string insruments very well compared to my Forte IIs and the 1 pair of Cornwalls I have heard.  

    I like to feel the bass I have really liked the khorns I have heard but I am falling for the tight bass in my scalas supplemented with a sub especially when listening to 2 channel.    Tight bass down to 60 or so and subs that go lower than the K-horns.   They do not move air like the K-horns but sound very musical, precise and distortion free.

    I also have a Velodyne SPL-1500 R sub.  Plan is to add 2 Velodyne SPL-1200Rs for 2 channel and keep the 1500 for a LFE during Surround sound.   I had Forte IIs for 16 years that went low but the Scala bass is much tighter and only needs help from the sub less than 60 hertz.  I have the sub xover set at 55hz which seams to be the best blend.  I do not have a meter but through trials I have come up with 55.  The cross over meter has been said to be within 3 hz. 

    La Scalas (ALK Universals with Bob's Tweeters)
    Academy (Chris's Network)
    RS-7s
    Velodyne SPL-1500
    Sony 52" LCD
    Mcintosh MX-132 (Preamp & HT Processor)
    Elite BDP-05FD Blue Ray
    McIntosh MC240 (La Scalas)
    Adcom GFA-535I (Academy)
    Adcom GFA-535I (RS-7s)
    Adcom GCD-750
    ""Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - Al OneStone
  • 05-22-2008 9:37 PM In reply to

    • BE36
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    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

    Very cool HT. I have home theater envy combined with La Scala envy.

    La Scalas (ALK Universals with Bob's Tweeters)
    Academy (Chris's Network)
    RS-7s
    Velodyne SPL-1500
    Sony 52" LCD
    Mcintosh MX-132 (Preamp & HT Processor)
    Elite BDP-05FD Blue Ray
    McIntosh MC240 (La Scalas)
    Adcom GFA-535I (Academy)
    Adcom GFA-535I (RS-7s)
    Adcom GCD-750
    ""Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - Al OneStone
  • 05-22-2008 10:34 PM In reply to

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    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

    BE36:
    I had Forte IIs for 16 years that went low but the Scala bass is much tighter and only needs help from the sub less than 60 hertz.  I have the sub xover set at 55hz which seams to be the best blend.  I do not have a meter but through trials I have come up with 55.  The cross over meter has been said to be within 3 hz. 


    The La Scala low end starts to roll off as high as 100Hz and really drops off around 50Hz.  Have you tried setting the sub's hi-cut somewhat higher?  Some folks set it at over 100Hz.  With my setup, 150Hz gives a natural-sounding bass response with the sub volume level set fairly low. 

    Pat on the Island
    510 JubScalas + Paradigm PW-2100, powered by Yamaha MX-D1 x 2,
    EQ'd by Electro-Voice Dx38, controlled by Yamaha RX-V750,
    fed by Technics SL-1400MK2 & Yamaha DVD-S550

    6.1 Surround: above plus 2 Heresy IIs & 2 Belles
  • 05-22-2008 11:02 PM In reply to

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    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

    I will give it try I stopped around 80hz the bass started to get stronger and boomy.  I think I will move the sub to the front wall and try again.

    Maybe I need a sound pressure meter and test signal to be more precise?

    Are your scalas in a corner?

    La Scalas (ALK Universals with Bob's Tweeters)
    Academy (Chris's Network)
    RS-7s
    Velodyne SPL-1500
    Sony 52" LCD
    Mcintosh MX-132 (Preamp & HT Processor)
    Elite BDP-05FD Blue Ray
    McIntosh MC240 (La Scalas)
    Adcom GFA-535I (Academy)
    Adcom GFA-535I (RS-7s)
    Adcom GCD-750
    ""Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - Al OneStone
  • 05-23-2008 2:28 AM In reply to

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    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

    If you look at the Arrange-a-Room diagram above, you'll see that I had only one corner available, near the left speaker, so I kept that speaker away from it, to avoid it sounding different from the right speaker, which is along the wall.

    I used an RS sound level meter and test CD to help find the speaker positions that gave the smoothest bass response and aimed them directly at the listening position for the best treble response.  They need to be relatively near a wall, but don't have to be in a corner.

    Finding the best position for the sub can take a while.  I tried four different spots before I settled on the present location.

    Pat on the Island
    510 JubScalas + Paradigm PW-2100, powered by Yamaha MX-D1 x 2,
    EQ'd by Electro-Voice Dx38, controlled by Yamaha RX-V750,
    fed by Technics SL-1400MK2 & Yamaha DVD-S550

    6.1 Surround: above plus 2 Heresy IIs & 2 Belles
  • 05-23-2008 6:47 AM In reply to

    • BE36
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    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

    I am 43, need glasses and memory pills.  Turned up the light and took another look the cross over dial - it is set at 110 hz

    La Scalas (ALK Universals with Bob's Tweeters)
    Academy (Chris's Network)
    RS-7s
    Velodyne SPL-1500
    Sony 52" LCD
    Mcintosh MX-132 (Preamp & HT Processor)
    Elite BDP-05FD Blue Ray
    McIntosh MC240 (La Scalas)
    Adcom GFA-535I (Academy)
    Adcom GFA-535I (RS-7s)
    Adcom GCD-750
    ""Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - Al OneStone
  • 05-23-2008 9:29 PM In reply to

    • PYRO
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    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

    7ft apart backed to wall.

    McIntosh C1000/C1000T, MDA1K, MS750, MC501 (2), Khorns
  • 05-24-2008 4:30 AM In reply to

    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

    13 ft apart in corners toed in about 4-5 inches off the wall and I sit about 11-12 feet back.

    xman

  • 05-27-2008 11:29 AM In reply to

    • jtkinney
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    Re: For those who own Lascalas,, How far apart do you have them?

     My room is 14'wide and the La's (rear surround) are up against the walls pointed toward the chair in the center of the room (the only furniture in there).  They need to be moved behind the chair, but there is a door in the way.

    Jim - Merritt Island, FL-
    78 Klipschorn's, 78 Belle Klipsch's, 79 LaScala's, 79 Cornwalls, 78 Heresy's, SF-1's and Quintet's
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