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Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

Last post 12-30-2008 10:37 PM by blsamuel. 118 replies.
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  • 12-21-2008 7:53 PM In reply to

    • Audible Nectar
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    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    EVERY component or part in the audio path has a signature. Whether it is an amp/other component, tranny, cap, tube, wire (and not to mention the implementation of these) it has a SOUND. Some minute and negligible, some more important and revealing......but they all have an effect if they are in the audio path, especially with horn speaker systems.

    Horns really DO love tubes.

    Those early tubes are really incredible.

    If the government knew just how pleasurable tubes and horns are, they would be illegal.....or taxedWink.

    "Out here in NoCal, we have a 'Rock Island', too: We call it ALCATRAZ." - Jim Rome

  • 12-21-2008 8:51 PM In reply to

    • Steve_L
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    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    The more things have changed, the more they've stayed the same.

    "Men of faith seldom lack courage" Bill Wilson
  • 12-21-2008 9:10 PM In reply to

    • DTLongo
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    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    TRUST YOUR EARS!  Plus bear in mind that program quality can vary markedly be it CD's, FM radio, MP3 or whatever.  Establish your own stable of a half-dozen or so recordings that YOU like and let them be your listening tests for new gear. 

    I've been all over this hobby from student-poor to Klipschorns+ Belle rich.  A good ca. $1,000- $2,000 subwoofer + satellite system can be eminently satisfying, trust me.  But you gotta listen to and wring it out first with your own ears and with your own stable of reference recordings before you buy.     

    Tom in Delmar, MD. 2003 Klipschorn mains, 2004 Belle Klipsch center and Velodyne S1500R servo subwoofer. Khorns upgraded in October 2009 with ALK Trachorns + ES-400T and ES-5800 crossovers. An Outlaw Model 970 tuner/preamp/processor feeds the three channels to an Outlaw Model 7075 75 wpc power amp through a Teac graphic equalizer for the right and left channels. HT in another room anchored by a Pioneer 50" plasma supported by a Harman-Kardon AVR-235 receiver, classic Large Advent mains, center channel is a (remarkably good!) RadioShack Minimus-7, sides and rears are Klipsch RS-35's plus a JBL B380 subwoofer modified with a dual-voice-coil Memphis 15" speaker to run off the main amp's subwoofer output through a separate old amplifier. A compact JBL PS100 sub behind the TV adds bottom to the center channel.
  • 12-21-2008 11:17 PM In reply to

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    There are only 3 things that can affect the transmission of audio through a system.  Resistance, Capacitance and Inductance.  If the Item In Question does not infuence any of the 3 then it can have no impact on the sound.

     Thank you Mr. Rozenblit for saving many a wallet.

     

    "What's that racket you're listening too?"
  • 12-22-2008 8:32 AM In reply to

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    Never thought I could pump an extra 16 db of bass (30 to 100hz) into the K-horn at 98dbm output without any apparent distortion.

    JJK

    K-horns 1965, Cornwall 1965, RSW12 2004, SC-1's 2004, Denon AVR-983 2004, DRA-365R 1998, Hughes AK-100 1985, Yamaha EQ-70 1985, Technics SLP-100 1985, JVC-XV-S500BK 2003, Kenwood KD-64F 1985,  Sony KDL-46XBR2 2006, Dean Crossovers, CT125 tweeters, MDL-120 Computer HD card 2003, Key Digital KD-SW4X1 Component Switcher, Sony KLV-S23A10 LCD TV, JVC SRDVD-100U Player, Sharp 32GP1U, Toshiba HD-A35, Sony KDL-37XBR6.
  • 12-22-2008 9:51 AM In reply to

    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    Buy what sounds good to you.

    People with the most money don't always buy the best equipment.

    Chorus and Cornwalls are heavier than you think.

    Lousy recordings still sound lousy, even on good speakers.

    McIntosh and Klipsch make beautiful music together.

    "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent." John Maynard Keynes

    Chorus II's, Cornwall II's, Heresy II's, KSB 1.1's KG 1.5's, RF-3 II's, 2x Aw-525's, GMX A-2.1's.
  • 12-22-2008 10:52 AM In reply to

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    I prefer a room with no acousitcal treatments to a room with too many acoustical treatments.

    '76 Klipschorns (Mahogany), '80 Cornwalls (Zebrawood), 1979 Cornwalls (Raw Birch) - Components Listed In System Profile
  • 12-22-2008 10:54 AM In reply to

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    Chicago_Pete:
    I honestly cannot tell the difference between my $200 speaker cables and lamp cord.

     

    Perhaps because there isn't any?

    Don

    Honk if you love Horns
  • 12-22-2008 11:23 AM In reply to

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    Chicago_Pete:

     I have leaned that when replacing those small bulbs on vintage Marantz receivers, keep the soldering pencil far away from the dial indicator string.

     

    Big Smile

    Preamp: Juicy Music Blueberry Xtreme, Amps: NOS Valves VRD's, TT: Music Hall MMF-7 CD/SACD: Sony SCD-333ES, Tuner: Fisher FM-100B, Speakers: Lascala's Baby
  • 12-22-2008 11:29 AM In reply to

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    Audible Nectar:
    EVERY component or part in the audio path has a signature. Whether it is an amp/other component, tranny, cap, tube, wire (and not to mention the implementation of these) it has a SOUND.
    Yes Yes Cables do sound different from one another.
    "He's boot-maker to the king. But then I suppose we all are in our own way, aren't we? Boot-makers to kings? Get out while you still can. While you still believe. While you still have a soul." ~ Dr. Fredericks, from the film "The Good Shepherd"
  • 12-22-2008 11:37 AM In reply to

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    An up to spec Scott 299 sounds pretty darn good with Cornwalls.
    What's the most you ever lost on a coin toss?
  • 12-22-2008 12:07 PM In reply to

    • Coytee
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    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    Maron Horonzak:
    Dave keeps shoving that mirror next to my knose to see if i,m still breathing.

    Whew, for a moment, I thought he was doing a booger check.

     

  • 12-22-2008 5:26 PM In reply to

    • dkalsi
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    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    Very Ture!! - In my opinion - if a 100% perect audiophile system is on a scale form 1-100 is a 100....

    ...then Cornwalls + up to spec Scott 29_ will get you around 95. 

    I think every point above that needs substantial (and really substantial) investment to make it sound that much better.

    I have pair of Cornwalls with a Scott 296 hooked up to it  -   I often compare that to my Klipschorns w/ ALK ES + Welborns 300B DRDs (i.e. total investment of almost 4x the Cornwall set up)  ---> So does my Khorn setup sound 4x better than my Cornwall setup? -  No! - 3x better? - No! 2x Better? - No! -  Any better in general? Yes.

    There is definitely a difference. Was it worth the 4x the investment? To me, absolutely yes!  

    I love trying new gear. Even though at times I am totally satisfied with my system, I still end up selling my gear just for the sake of trying something new (I don't encourage this - too much hassel for most - but not enough to stop me).  

    I had a similar experience at GaryMDs place. His Cornwalls are set up with a Scott 299B and he also has a Khorn w/ DeanG crossovers, VRDs, highend turntable, Blueberry with Cream etc etc. system --->  IMO, although not totally on par with his Khorn system, the Cornwall system sound really really really good.

    A nice pair of Cornwalls can be found anywhere between 600-800 + nice rebuilt Scott can also be found for 500-600.  Hence for approximately 1100-1400, you can step up one amazing sound system. Sit back, enjoy, and save tons of money.

     

    1) 1988 Klipschorn KBWO with ALK ES Xovers+V-Trac+BMS-4592ND+JBL2404H Tweeters with Plinius SA-100 MKIII w/ Django+TVC (with S&B Transformers) + Benchmark Dac1 USB + Toshiba Laptop

    2) NOS Valves Eico HF-87 + NOS Valves Eico HF-85 with 1983 Klipsch Cornwalls
  • 12-22-2008 5:32 PM In reply to

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    I've learned to consider the sourceWink

    What I learned this morning is the largest growing sector in music is vinyl salesSurprise Maybe there truly is hopeBig Smile

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    Mom & the Boys HT Rig: Wharfdale-Diamond HT5.1/DiamondCenter/Diamond8.3Mains/Diamond7.1Rears&RellStormII/NADT751/NADT571/PanasonicPV-V4624Sand all on a APEX27incherLOL

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  • 12-22-2008 5:36 PM In reply to

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    Record deck=turntable

    Some people think old volvos are beautiful.  The same people think td 124's are too. 

    Copper speaker wire oxidizes much more slowly at my house than at many others.

    Timbre matching is the only way to go with an ht rig. 

    Good speakers make excellent gifts to those whom you visit often.

    Whiskey then beer, never fear.  Beer then whiskey, mighty risky.

    Saving us all from audiophile elocution-One of the biggest problems affecting audio today!

    Hockey fans aren't like other fans.
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