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Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

Last post 12-30-2008 10:37 PM by blsamuel. 118 replies.
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  • 12-30-2008 10:29 AM In reply to

    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    I've learned to not listen to your wife when you're getting divorced.  "No Tommy, I know you love you Klipsch speakers, and your stereo.  I would NEVER try to take that from you."  Ya, ok, complete PWK BS Button!  But I've "aquired" another setup, so I'm good to go now!!!

    5.2 System:
    Hitachi 52" HDTV (Non HDMI)
    Pioneer VSX-2016AVs (surrounds & subs)
    ROTEL RB-956AX (left, center, right)
    Sony BDP-S350 Blu Ray player
    Monster Power HTS1600MKII powercenter
    F2 mains
    C2 center
    S1 surrounds
    RW 10
    Sub 12
    Logitech Harmony 550 remote

    It's sort of like Synergy on steroids!!!
  • 12-30-2008 1:04 PM In reply to

    • psg
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    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    Took me 25 years of La Scala ownership before I spread them out and experienced true imaging for the first time in my life.

    That also means that I had never heard true imaging at friend's and family's places or even at audio stores.  Scary.

    Peter Galbraith in Rimouski, Quebec, Canada,
    using 6.1 with Klipschorns mains, La Scala center and 3 Heresy II (surrounds and single rear) along with Hsu STF-3 sub. Rest in profile.
  • 12-30-2008 1:21 PM In reply to

    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    How far apart?  Mine are 118" apart C-C which makes for a 118" x 140" x 140" triangle to my head at my "preferred" listening position. I can move to get the 60 degree triangle, in that postion the center image is slightly crisper but the width is less impressive.

     Then I can always turn on the Holography on the Carver which makes for some real spacey listening!

    "What's that racket you're listening too?"
  • 12-30-2008 1:25 PM In reply to

    • oldmako
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    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

     I have learned that I was a fool to have not bought those Heresy's back in 1984.  I lost 25 years of great listening.  If amortized the speakers were worth every freakin penny and then some.  Who would have imagined that they'd still sound GREAT 25 years later?  What an investment.

    I have also learned that the $240 I just spent on a mint pair of CF-3s was the best money I have ever spent on anything....well short of that 50 bucks I dropped at the adult toy store for that battery operated gizmo for my GF!   

    And I learned that I am an idiot for selling my dads 25 year old Sansui DB9000 (or something like that) for 75 bucks!   I see them on ebay now for over 400 bucks!!!!!!

     

     

    Currently:
    Flawless Oiled Walnut Fortes.
    Cherry CF3s..near new condition.
    Tangents
    4 KSB 1s
    Original Advents with the nice cabinets - Mint.
    ProMedia Innernet speekirs.
    Old, fairly high quality 2 channel stuff to drive.
    Bad Hearing, halitosis, nasal hair, TF


    Wish list and searching for: Mahogany or Cherry KLF 30s (or 20s), Walnut Cornwall's, Walnut Forte IIs, RB35s.
  • 12-30-2008 4:10 PM In reply to

    • DU73
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    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    I have learned that this is one great website.  lots of knowledge and lots of laughs and very supportive. YesBig Smile

    I wish I found it sooner..

    Happy new year everyone!!!! 

     

  • 12-30-2008 4:27 PM In reply to

    • psg
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    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    philipbarrett:

    How far apart?  Mine are 118" apart C-C which makes for a 118" x 140" x 140" triangle to my head at my "preferred" listening position. I can move to get the 60 degree triangle, in that postion the center image is slightly crisper but the width is less impressive.

     Then I can always turn on the Holography on the Carver which makes for some real spacey listening!

     

     

    18 to 20 feet apart.  Toe-in La Scalas at 45 degrees, as you would Klipschorns.  That make the sweet spot half that from the front wall (9 to 10 feet).  

    Peter Galbraith in Rimouski, Quebec, Canada,
    using 6.1 with Klipschorns mains, La Scala center and 3 Heresy II (surrounds and single rear) along with Hsu STF-3 sub. Rest in profile.
  • 12-30-2008 4:49 PM In reply to

    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    psg:

    18 to 20 feet apart.  Toe-in La Scalas at 45 degrees, as you would Klipschorns.  That make the sweet spot half that from the front wall (9 to 10 feet).  

     

     I'd need a sawzall for 20' & I don't think the missus would be very pleased with the missing home parts!

    "What's that racket you're listening too?"
  • 12-30-2008 5:09 PM In reply to

    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    philipbarrett:

    psg:

    18 to 20 feet apart.  Toe-in La Scalas at 45 degrees, as you would Klipschorns.  That make the sweet spot half that from the front wall (9 to 10 feet).  

     

     I'd need a sawzall for 20' & I don't think the missus would be very pleased with the missing home parts!

     

     

    PSG knows what he is talking about. My brother in laws listening room is 24' by 32', and his Klipschorns are in the corners on the short wall. It takes the

    experience to a complete whole nother level you never knew existed.

                                                        

                                                                       Roger

  • 12-30-2008 6:13 PM In reply to

    • dtel
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    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    oldmako:
    I have also learned that the $240 I just spent on a mint pair of CF-3s was the best money I have ever spent on anything....well short of that 50 bucks I dropped at the adult toy store for that battery operated gizmo for my GF!

     

    Thats funny !

    "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
    safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Champagne in one hand - strawberries with whipped cream in the other hand, body
    thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!"

  • 12-30-2008 6:49 PM In reply to

    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    It's funny dtel but it's also hard to quantify the pleasure she received vs the pleasure he received.  Obviously for him the cf's were a better buy, but let's hear her side of the story.  Please, please lets...

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  • 12-30-2008 6:56 PM In reply to

    • dtel
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    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    That's a very good idea, normally pic's always help around here but I don't think that will fly here, so just the details will have to do ! The pic's could always be sent to Oldtimer just for verification purposes only.

    "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
    safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Champagne in one hand - strawberries with whipped cream in the other hand, body
    thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!"

  • 12-30-2008 7:33 PM In reply to

    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    1. Timbre matters in an HT 2. I still love my La Scala's today as much as when I bought them about 24 years ago. 3. After 30+ years in this hobby I still get giddy when I hear a good sound. 4. Her opinion does matter but if you do things right it can be changed. Cool 5. Simple is good but bigger is betterer Yes 6. Speaker cables only matter most when they are connected right. 7. When I first got my La Scala's and I said I'd back them up with a pair of Heresy's I was wrong, I back them up with 2 pair!
    R/Jim
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  • 12-30-2008 10:19 PM In reply to

    • dtel
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    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    J.4knee:
    Speaker cables only matter most when they are connected right

     

    Yes

    "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
    safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,
    Champagne in one hand - strawberries with whipped cream in the other hand, body
    thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!"

  • 12-30-2008 10:37 PM In reply to

    Re: Things I have learned on my hi-fi journey

    • I should have listened to my high school art teacher and gotten a good stereo before I got married, or before graduating college
    • Awesome sound is not as expensive as one might think
    • Speakers don't work too well without speaker wire
    • The voices don't go away no matter how much or how deeply you suppress them
    • Get your first pair of Klipsch while you're still young
    • Tube equipment looks cool
    • Little cubes make nice paperweights but not great speakers
    • Size does matter when it comes to speakers
    • Those who say horn speakers can't produce a good image are full of PWK BS Button
    • Audio is not a spectator sport (with apologies to Dr Ramon Avila professor of mathematics at Ball State University who always told us that mathematics is not a spectator sport)
    • Great engineering always sounds better than great marketing
    • Klipschorns can sound wonderful in a small room
    • Klipschorns are still my dream speakers after 30 years or so - well sensible dream as Jubilee and MCM pops into mind - though I still think Belles or La Scalas would be a good compromise  
    • Heresies are a good compromise
    • I can enjoy good music on decent to really crappy speakers, but it is so much more enjoyable on GOOD speakers
    • The music is what matters 
    • We here are not nearly as insane as those who think little cube speakers are as good as it gets 
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