I agree with Jim's statements above. Another thing has to do with the type of music/bass you are wanting to produce. IMO, I have found that Klipsch does not do so well on Rap/Hip Hop type bass without the aid of a sub. I feel they are more suited to a rock/classic rock style of bass.   

 guys, that photo was FOUR years ago... back when I was a wee little one. Didn't even own Klipschorns yet.

you should see the subbage (Doc's term) here now!  bwhahahah

I love the CW bass, deep solid, sounds like bass. LS is tight punchy and loud but not deep. Of course Khorn ENERGIZES the room like no other. 

Like I've always said, 'Collect em all- it's a set'. 

To continue with Jim C's comments, Klipsch is not built for crazy stupid bass, it's built for realistic distortionless bass. So if you want it to sound like MUSIC, like the SOURCE, get Klipsch, otherwise a pair of them auto thumper speakers will shake you more for less money but will sound like shitte.

 I prefer speakers that reproduce the acurate sound of bass instruments, not the ones that just play more extreme  "bass", or as Coulterphoto1 so elequently describes, "Crazy stupid bass". That stuff tends to be a monotone thump and buzz kind of experience I don't care to hear.

My classic AK-2 Klipsch corner Khorns delve as deep as 30Hz in a reasonably flat frequency response, sounding more like acoustic instruments than movie theaters.

The B-2 Cornwall Is I had before, have a mid-bass bump at about 80-100 Hz which makes them better for bass heavy rock n’ roll.

None of the Klipsch big ole horns have the modern punchy bass. This is because they use the old style large bass drivers with a lot of surface area and small movement to move the air. This creates low, but lean, sounding bass. Typical cone small box-reflex speakers use small bass drivers that have thick rubber surrounds. On a bass impulse, the cone of the driver instantly travels a longer distance than the Klipsch bass cone, punching out a fast, but small, air wave. The result has a lot of impact, but is not as deep. Because there is so little stress on the rubber surround, bass drivers in big ole Klipsch horns can last almost forever.

Colin:

Because there is so little stress on the rubber surround, bass drivers in big ole Klipsch horns can last almost forever.

Hello

How does klipsch Khorn look like i dont now if i found them on klipsch home page.Today i have klipsch rf-7 and i like them but i always look for improvment  i also have two digitaldesign 9515,15" subbwofer so i have base but sometime i think the horn sounds a little well sharp i have also listened on the majority different cd player but i think the horn still
can become sharp in the sound on truly high volume maybe it becomes better with new filters that dean g builds ?

 best regards fredrik

At "truly high volume" you could be reaching the point where your ears start to distort, so it may not be an issue with the speakers.  Have you tried adjusting your tone controls, perhaps for a little less treble?

Also, really high volume levels can sometimes overload the room, and that won't sound good.  Do your favourite bands actually play that loud?

fredrik,

You can take a little sharpness out of the horns with a cable change. I don't know what your system is so it's hard to make a recommendation.

Thanx, Russ

What preamp and amplifier are you using?

fredrik:

which klipsch loudspeaker plays most base
and midbase 

 best regards fredrik 

Frederik,

I have seen only one indesputible statement; "No Doubt about it", but the answer was incorect!!

The indesputible KING of Klipsch Bass and Mid Bass is the KP-600 system speakers.

The only problem is that very, VERY few, even here on the forum have ever even heard them, and as far as I am aware, only 5 of us forum members even own a set of them. They blow the MCM-1900 and the Jubilee out of the water. As far as I know, only Cholter and Kevin Harmon have all three pairs of those speakers, and only Kevin has all three up and running propperly, and I am fortunate enough to have spent many, many hours listening to all three with Kevin. Jubilees with 684s is the only thing that would begin to compare. I would imagine that JCs MCM Grand 4s would be in the running, if he augmented them with a pair of 684's.

                                       JMHO.....   Roger

http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/search/default.aspx?search=klipschorn

Fredrik,

Here's a link to the Klipschorns on the Klipsch website.

Hope you have a chance to hear these. They do have a different sound than RF-7's.

Klipschorn  and other Heritage speakers are my preference, but of course, that is subjective.

 KPT884 will kick them all in low end.

Roger, I'll add one more to your list- KP682 with KP362 tops is my 'bar setup', the KP682 is the KI684 made portable. Both are same basic cabinet size as the SW680 (dual 18") , but made of 1" plywood and housing the upgraded K47EP2 driver. And yes I have them up and running properly.  We'll be doing freqency analysis of them today and tweaking the XTi rack for flat response. 

Next up- getting the KP600 stacks refurbished, painted, tweaked. Look for a thread in Commercial section.

Fred - if you already have 7s and subs, than yes, I would explore either tube amps or upgraded crossovers to smooth the upper end peaks, I heard DeanGs and they are well worth the improvement!

colterphoto1:

 KPT884 will kick them all in low end.

Roger, I'll add one more to your list- KP682 with KP362 tops is my 'bar setup', the KP682 is the KI684 made portable. Both are same basic cabinet size as the SW680 (dual 18") , but made of 1" plywood and housing the upgraded K47EP2 driver. And yes I have them up and running properly.  We'll be doing freqency analysis of them today and tweaking the XTi rack for flat response. 

 

Next up- getting the KP600 stacks refurbished, painted, tweaked. Look for a thread in Commercial section.

Michael,

KPT884 may go lower, but as Roy pointed out, 30Hz will cover all your musical Bass, so except for synthasized suff, and movie explosion, the 682 and 684 will put out more musical Bass. For all of the other stuff, I still have my pair of Velodyne HGS-18IIs.

As to the statement of having all three up and running, I was talking about a pair of Jubilees, a pair of MCM 1900s, and a pair of KP-600s. One of the last times I talked with you, you weren't happy with how your Jubilees sounded and you stated you might sell them and break out your 60th aniverary K-Horns. From that, I garnered that you didn't have them propperly set up yet, as to me, Kevins clearly sound better then K-Horns as they are set up. I also didn't think you had your 600s up and running yet, do you???

Only two of Kevins 18's worked. He gave one to his brother, and the other to Bill Hendricks. Kevin put 4 new EP2s in his 600s, and if you look at the photo he posted of his amp rack with your old Motengators, his 600s, and my 600s, mine will be getting 4 new EP2s as well.

I look forward to seeing some shots of your 600s and how they come together as I have always enjoyed and followed your Pro posts, especially putting the new drivers in the MWMs for Kevin.

I was really blessed in being located so close to Kevins House for three months, and meeting Bill was some free icing on the cake.

It would really be great if next year, maybe we could get Kevin and Bill to bring their 600s, I brought my 600s, and you could break out your 600s for the Indy Klipsch fest that you did this Year. Heck, maybe you and Kevin could even throw in a pair on MCM stacks. I know this guy who has a buch of TSCM stuff.

                                             Roger