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Last post 12-01-2007 9:41 AM by rcarlton. 116 replies.
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  • 02-08-2007 5:30 PM In reply to

    Re: Heresy II project

    Another angle.

    Ron Carlton
    Dallas, Texas
    Downstairs: oiled oak Klipschorn, oiled walnut Heresy II (center), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, LaScala (rear), Bubinga Heresy I (rear surrounds), Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) McIntosh MC250, McIntosh MC2100, OPPO DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C

    Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, McIntosh MC275MKIV, oiled walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

    Avatar: Mr. Waddles rocking out to the K-horn's.
  • 02-08-2007 7:50 PM In reply to

    Re: Heresy II project

    What are you planning on using for glue? Heat set or contact cement? I've used both methods and had splits with both types. Course I was using a non backed veneer too.

    *HT, Cornwall CWL mains;
    *Heresy I's HBR(veneered) rears;
    *KSCC1 center;
    *Yamaha RX-V1400;
    *HK DVD5;
    *NAD7250PE 2-channel
    *Philips 212 turntable
    *Dynaco Stereo 70
    *Dynaco PAS preamp
    *Heresy II HWO's
    *Lascalas
  • 02-08-2007 9:59 PM In reply to

    Re: Heresy II project

    Weldwood Contact Cement...the flammable kind.Cake
    Ron Carlton
    Dallas, Texas
    Downstairs: oiled oak Klipschorn, oiled walnut Heresy II (center), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, LaScala (rear), Bubinga Heresy I (rear surrounds), Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) McIntosh MC250, McIntosh MC2100, OPPO DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C

    Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, McIntosh MC275MKIV, oiled walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

    Avatar: Mr. Waddles rocking out to the K-horn's.
  • 02-08-2007 11:57 PM In reply to

    Re: Heresy II project

    Good stuff. Be sure to use it in a well ventilated area or you're going to get a buzzz!Drinks
    *HT, Cornwall CWL mains;
    *Heresy I's HBR(veneered) rears;
    *KSCC1 center;
    *Yamaha RX-V1400;
    *HK DVD5;
    *NAD7250PE 2-channel
    *Philips 212 turntable
    *Dynaco Stereo 70
    *Dynaco PAS preamp
    *Heresy II HWO's
    *Lascalas
  • 02-09-2007 10:05 AM In reply to

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    I intended to use it in the garage, but the temperature is not cooperating. Seems everything needs to be at 65 degrees for 24 hours before applying and 72 hours after for proper bond strength. So.....I wait a month before finishing the project or I open some windows in the spare bedroomConfused.

    After reading all the warnings about flash fires...probably best to wait until it hits 65+ here to do the gluing. I have a bench, should be able to do it outside.  But what about insects? Should be able to bring it indoors after it has set for awhile...3 days at 65+ is a long time. Seems like I'm talking myself into returning the contact cement and getting the non-flammable kindConfused.

     

    Turns out the best thing to do is use the flammable contact cement. The following posts will illustrate what can go wrong. 

    Ron Carlton
    Dallas, Texas
    Downstairs: oiled oak Klipschorn, oiled walnut Heresy II (center), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, LaScala (rear), Bubinga Heresy I (rear surrounds), Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) McIntosh MC250, McIntosh MC2100, OPPO DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C

    Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, McIntosh MC275MKIV, oiled walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

    Avatar: Mr. Waddles rocking out to the K-horn's.
  • 02-09-2007 6:40 PM In reply to

    Re: Heresy II project

    Still cutting and fitting pieces. Once the front edging is done I'll need to trim 1/4" off.

    Nothing glued yet. 


    Ron Carlton
    Dallas, Texas
    Downstairs: oiled oak Klipschorn, oiled walnut Heresy II (center), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, LaScala (rear), Bubinga Heresy I (rear surrounds), Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) McIntosh MC250, McIntosh MC2100, OPPO DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C

    Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, McIntosh MC275MKIV, oiled walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

    Avatar: Mr. Waddles rocking out to the K-horn's.
  • 02-09-2007 6:41 PM In reply to

    Re: Heresy II project

    Closeup of a corner. Nothing glued yet.

    Ron Carlton
    Dallas, Texas
    Downstairs: oiled oak Klipschorn, oiled walnut Heresy II (center), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, LaScala (rear), Bubinga Heresy I (rear surrounds), Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) McIntosh MC250, McIntosh MC2100, OPPO DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C

    Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, McIntosh MC275MKIV, oiled walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

    Avatar: Mr. Waddles rocking out to the K-horn's.
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  • 02-09-2007 7:59 PM In reply to

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    Watch that inside outside stuff. Changes in humidity will cause you trouble. I did my glueing outside and after attaching moved the speaker back inside to try and maintain a stable humidity level. If you're working in the garage with that glue don't forget that a gas appliance like a water heater or dryer can ignite the fumes. A house burned not to long ago because someone was painting cabinets in the closed garage and the water heater set off the fumes. Could make for a bad day! Drinks
    *HT, Cornwall CWL mains;
    *Heresy I's HBR(veneered) rears;
    *KSCC1 center;
    *Yamaha RX-V1400;
    *HK DVD5;
    *NAD7250PE 2-channel
    *Philips 212 turntable
    *Dynaco Stereo 70
    *Dynaco PAS preamp
    *Heresy II HWO's
    *Lascalas
  • 02-10-2007 11:54 AM In reply to

    Re: Heresy II project

    Went with the non-flammable glue. Did not want to deal with temperature and humidity changes. Bad things can happen. Everything is cut out...ready for glue.
    Ron Carlton
    Dallas, Texas
    Downstairs: oiled oak Klipschorn, oiled walnut Heresy II (center), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, LaScala (rear), Bubinga Heresy I (rear surrounds), Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) McIntosh MC250, McIntosh MC2100, OPPO DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C

    Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, McIntosh MC275MKIV, oiled walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

    Avatar: Mr. Waddles rocking out to the K-horn's.
  • 02-10-2007 8:22 PM In reply to

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    Just snagged a pair of poorly painted Heresy I's. Appear to be raw birch. Can't tell the year, labels are gone and no serial number stamped on the speakers. Looks like I'll have 2 pair of Bubinga Heresy's.

    Been thinking about the walnut Heresy II...a few coats of BLO and it will look like it came fresh from the factoryIdea.

     

    Ron Carlton
    Dallas, Texas
    Downstairs: oiled oak Klipschorn, oiled walnut Heresy II (center), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, LaScala (rear), Bubinga Heresy I (rear surrounds), Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) McIntosh MC250, McIntosh MC2100, OPPO DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C

    Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, McIntosh MC275MKIV, oiled walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

    Avatar: Mr. Waddles rocking out to the K-horn's.
  • 02-11-2007 5:52 PM In reply to

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    Ready to glue the edge banding down. Carefully cut, and laid out the veneer on the speaker. Once satisfied with the pattern, top and bottom, sides are all mirror images of each other, taped them down.

    Ron Carlton
    Dallas, Texas
    Downstairs: oiled oak Klipschorn, oiled walnut Heresy II (center), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, LaScala (rear), Bubinga Heresy I (rear surrounds), Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) McIntosh MC250, McIntosh MC2100, OPPO DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C

    Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, McIntosh MC275MKIV, oiled walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

    Avatar: Mr. Waddles rocking out to the K-horn's.
  • 02-11-2007 5:54 PM In reply to

    Re: Heresy II project

    Stirred the Weldwood non-flammable contact cement. Sure doesn't look like the stuff in the glass bottles. Very little odor. Easily washes out with water.

    Ron Carlton
    Dallas, Texas
    Downstairs: oiled oak Klipschorn, oiled walnut Heresy II (center), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, LaScala (rear), Bubinga Heresy I (rear surrounds), Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) McIntosh MC250, McIntosh MC2100, OPPO DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C

    Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, McIntosh MC275MKIV, oiled walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

    Avatar: Mr. Waddles rocking out to the K-horn's.
  • 02-11-2007 5:55 PM In reply to

    Re: Heresy II project

    Used a brush to spread the glue. The veneer had a tendency to curl. Once dry it flattened back out.

    Ron Carlton
    Dallas, Texas
    Downstairs: oiled oak Klipschorn, oiled walnut Heresy II (center), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, LaScala (rear), Bubinga Heresy I (rear surrounds), Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) McIntosh MC250, McIntosh MC2100, OPPO DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C

    Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, McIntosh MC275MKIV, oiled walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

    Avatar: Mr. Waddles rocking out to the K-horn's.
  • 02-11-2007 5:56 PM In reply to

    Re: Heresy II project

    Shot of the curling veneer. To reduce the curling I should have applied a light mist of water to the opposite side of the veneer.

    Ron Carlton
    Dallas, Texas
    Downstairs: oiled oak Klipschorn, oiled walnut Heresy II (center), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, LaScala (rear), Bubinga Heresy I (rear surrounds), Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) McIntosh MC250, McIntosh MC2100, OPPO DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C

    Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, McIntosh MC275MKIV, oiled walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

    Avatar: Mr. Waddles rocking out to the K-horn's.
  • 02-11-2007 5:59 PM In reply to

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    Top and bottom being glued down. Had to be very careful with the corners. Got them to come out OK. Used a hand made scraper (4"X6"X1/2") with rounded edges to flatten the veneer.

    Ron Carlton
    Dallas, Texas
    Downstairs: oiled oak Klipschorn, oiled walnut Heresy II (center), SVS PB12-Plus/2 piano black, LaScala (rear), Bubinga Heresy I (rear surrounds), Outlaw 990, McIntosh MA6100, (2) McIntosh MC250, McIntosh MC2100, OPPO DV-981HD, Toshiba HD-A2, Cambridge Audio Azur 640C

    Upstairs: McIntosh C2200, McIntosh MC275MKIV, oiled walnut Cornwall I, Denon DVD-2200, Technics SL-1200 M3D, Audio Technica AT150MLX, Richard Gray Power Company 400 Pro

    Avatar: Mr. Waddles rocking out to the K-horn's.
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