[quote user="Marvel"] This is from an old recording book I've had since the 70s, dealing with monitoring, but this may help. Basically, if you get the balance sounding ok at around 85 db, you will be good turning up the gain or turning it down. The balance will stay pretty close. I had posted the text of this years ago, and Al K had a fit, because he thought it meant the recording/mix engineers were telling him how loud he needed to play the music, but that isn't the point. Bruce

what was your sweep length and window size for these plots?

[quote user="Brockybear"]I have Khorns and Palladium P-39F and without a doubt the Palladium walk all over the Khorns for shear musicality. They are a generational improvement on the heritage line and take horn speakers to the next level. Worth every cent[/quote] I totally agree the Palladium sound better overall, but there will be an ever so slight edge in dynamics for that big bass horn versus the direct radiators. I'm surprised that soldering is involved for this repair - that's

My point is that if you use more drivers instead of a horn, that you also end up with less power dissipated per driver. There's also the benefit of a smaller solution that avoids the compromises of an undersized horn, and a direct radiator system also benefits more from corner loading and room gain than a horn will (because the horn is already providing the DI).

[quote user="ClaudeJ1"][quote user="DrWho"] My point is that if you use more drivers instead of a horn, that you also end up with less power dissipated per driver. There's also the benefit of a smaller solution that avoids the compromises of an undersized horn, and a direct radiator system also benefits more from corner loading and room gain than a horn will (because the horn is already providing the DI).[/quote] Bingo. Thanks for summarizing you point. Looks like Don Keele's

[quote user="Rudy81"] Dave, Here is the comparison of the baffle alone and one with the wings installed. It certainly seems to benefit from some type of loading with the wings. The various similar lines are from varying throat sizes I tried....didn't seem to make much of a difference. [/quote] I think you'd see more difference in the polars actually...

[quote user="William F. Gil McDermott"] My long standing observation is that the K-Horn LS, and Belle put out 104 db at one watt (nominal) at one meter for one speaker and: 60 dB down from that is 44 dB which is pretty quiet. One scale I see on the Internet puts 40 dB as a quiet library. It is not too farfetched to say that some of our listening is at 44 dB. But to make that 44 dB we need only 1 microwatt from the amp, if my calculations are correct. Were are the measured distortion levels

[quote user="AletheiaAudio"] "This thread will focus the identifying underlying assumptions and belief systems that fuel our arguments, without arguing the points yet again." They aren't always assumptions. Many times they are because of things heard from those authoritative in the field. If we personally experience those things, whatever those things might be -- we adopt them and add them to other things we believe. Great minds in every field disagree about things proven

I only got through half of the first article.... this is totally not how I'd go about quantifying cable behavior. This is more of an amplifier test if anything....

I'm curious where you disagree with Elliott - he seems fairly solid all around from what I've read.